The eye of the storm has passed here comes the real trouble.......

[quote=Dsimon3387;2410870]This post:

So if the base closed in 93 and people have been contacted by you (Kintanon) then why is it considered an “Untruth” if Tripp contacted people at the base?

It cannot be both ways: If Tripp is called to task for contacting people then the numerous contacts you made are also called into question.

Or, logic would dictate that Tripp’s assertion that he spoke to people should not be considered a lie… I mean people do exist past the life of institutions.[/quote]

What? WTF are you talking about? I didn’t say Tripps contacts were lies you idiot. I said I wanted to know who he talked to so I could ask my own damn questions. I’m getting tired of your fuckery.

The eye of the storm has passed here comes the real trouble…

If you have the information why not provide it? Or is this your tripp impersonation.

I’m not embarrassed by anything I’ve done or said in this thread or the culls. There is someone who should be embarrassed, but he already left in his prima donna hissy fit before providing any pertinent information, unless you consider his pontificating pertinent.

Is there any realistic chance that we will ever find out if Chuck trained or not?

I think the reasons for which Chuck was ousted and for which MTripp left ultimately had very little to do with the verification of Chuck’s judo claims.

The question I am asking is if it’s even relevant at this point if Chuck made up his meager judo background or not. I really think it isn’t, and that we should leave this matter alone.

Are you really seriously trying to hunt down the credentials for a supposed mid-80s green belt that liked to talk smack over the internet?

  • You might think that’s not what it is. But that IS what it is.

Even if he was a liar, what purpose would the knowledge serve at this point? Noone gives a shit anyway.

defensive a bit are we? Little man don’t get sand in your vag… its really very simple. Whether you said it, whether it was implied, whatever… the point is a double standard should not be allowed to be perpetuated.

Your the idiot that could not stand Steve’s feedback, you tend to fall into a rage post when something like this has to be broached, oh well. To bad.

Learn not to take it personally. Again its very simple and it has nothing to do with anyone personally and it has everything to do with a double standard. May I suggest a decent douche?

[quote=Pilgrim;2424809]Is there any realistic chance that we will ever find out if Chuck trained or not?

I think the reasons for which Chuck was ousted and for which MTripp left ultimately had very little to do with the verification of Chuck’s judo claims.

The question I am asking is if it’s even relevant at this point if Chuck made up his meager judo background or not. I really think it isn’t, and that we should leave this matter alone.

Are you really seriously trying to hunt down the credentials for a supposed mid-80s green belt that liked to talk smack over the internet?

  • You might think that’s not what it is. But that IS what it is.

Even if he was a liar, what purpose would the knowledge serve at this point? Noone gives a shit anyway.[/quote]

Dear Pilgrim,

I can prove my yellow belt in tae kwon do here is a guy I kicked in the groin…tell em Ted…

Ted: “yup dsimon kicked me in the groin.”

Dsimon: “thanks Ted,nice to see you again.”

Ted: “yup.”

So there you go pilgrim!

Seriously? The only necessary Bump was GirlJock’s because the guy remembered Chuck.

Chuck Hardin’s Judo claims… - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

Good cull, IIF. Pushups.

:psyduck: This shitfest will go on forever, or won’t it?

[quote=Dsimon3387;2424852]Dear Pilgrim,

I can prove my yellow belt in tae kwon do here is a guy I kicked in the groin…tell em Ted…

Ted: “yup dsimon kicked me in the groin.”

Dsimon: “thanks Ted,nice to see you again.”

Ted: “yup.”

So there you go pilgrim![/quote]

Sorry, but do you remember all the people you have trained with?

I left my last dojo a month ago, after training there eights months straight, going out to drink with some of my pals there quite regularly, and on and on, and I couldn’t remember half of their names without Facebook any more.
When I think back to my prior dojo experiences, I usually remember them fondly as “the hot chick”, or “the fat dude”.
So, that argument would not be valid on my list.

  • I am pretty convinced that he lied about his entire MA background, but I think it’s pretty irrelevant if to prove it at this point.

The reason I am annoyed with Chuck is that I disliked the way he treated others, if at all, THIS should be discussed again.

But, hell, did he have beginner judo training yes or no? I don’t give a flying fuck.

Dsimon is a fuckhead. straight up. He quoted a post where I asked who Tripp talked to, and implied that I was calling a Tripp a liar. Fuck him.

I have two other people who also remember training in Judo with Chuck, but nothing about the tournaments. So yeah, there are witnesses who can back up that Chuck did train with Bill Kitz. Did he train T3H Real Judo? No one will ever know because no one can find Bill Kitz to ask him WTF he was teaching. But bullshit like all of the fuckery from Dsimon in this thread is just pissing me off.

Bottom line is that I don’t give a fuck about Steve Arce or his criticism of a technique I was fucking around with and have since used many times without anyone breaking my arms. The guy is a douche bag, end of story.

Steve Arse? Yeah, what a complete tool. I am still not over how we paid his fucking black belt and he then began to shit on us.

His story alone is so fucked up I am glad he is gone.
Giving that idiot the warm welcome BS gave him is what triggered the entire shitstorm.

Lesson to be learned = Do not be nice to people.

Not wanting to shit up Sheerdog…but, why did you donate to his testing fees?
To make him like you? To get bragging rights? To have something over him?
Personally, I did it because he needed the help and it was the right thing to do.
What he does with it from here on out is on him and defines him, not you.
Know that you did a solid in the dojo and move on.

His story alone is so fucked up I am glad he is gone.

All of the guys posting on Tripps board are still members here and are welcome to post on both.
Don’t make it us/them because it isn’t. The community is small enough without making it smaller.

Giving that idiot the warm welcome BS gave him is what triggered the entire shitstorm.

If reports are true, there was enough going on in the background that many of us were unawares of.
If you need a face to put on the concept of “blame” you are just creating a hydra.

Lesson to be learned = Do not be nice to people.

That isn’t a lesson it is a justification to be an asshole.
You helped Omega certify a guy who, if the story is correct, lost his certification in a housefire.
If you like Omega, then view it as you did Omega a solid and be done with it. The guy was, according to Omega’s grading, a verifiable Shodan in Judo. If this is correct, he earned his grading and deserved it.
If this is the harshest experience you had in the duplicity of human nature, you have lived a blessed and sheltered life.

Well said Snake.

[quote=Pilgrim;2424885]Steve Arse? Yeah, what a complete tool. I am still not over how we paid his fucking black belt and he then began to shit on us.

His story alone is so fucked up I am glad he is gone.
Giving that idiot the warm welcome BS gave him is what triggered the entire shitstorm.

Lesson to be learned = Do not be nice to people.[/quote]

Wow, people paid for his testing?

No, it was for his certification through USJF*…whichever org he was registered with.

They require fees for his certification and a member asked for help and some members offered it and Omega offered to review his abilities and had a nice seminar at his, Omega’s, school.

It wasn’t a big deal, really and I would hope the community would do the same again.

*someone fill in the specific Judo org…I am too lazy to search and don’t remember

[quote=Kintanon;2424878]Dsimon is a fuckhead. straight up. He quoted a post where I asked who Tripp talked to, and implied that I was calling a Tripp a liar. Fuck him.

I have two other people who also remember training in Judo with Chuck, but nothing about the tournaments. So yeah, there are witnesses who can back up that Chuck did train with Bill Kitz. Did he train T3H Real Judo? No one will ever know because no one can find Bill Kitz to ask him WTF he was teaching. But bullshit like all of the fuckery from Dsimon in this thread is just pissing me off.

Bottom line is that I don’t give a fuck about Steve Arce or his criticism of a technique I was fucking around with and have since used many times without anyone breaking my arms. The guy is a douche bag, end of story.[/quote]

Your post was moved because it would cause a derail not, because you were wrong to respond.

[quote=Snake Plissken;2424927]

It wasn’t a big deal, really and I would hope the community would do the same again.
[/quote]I hope they wait and see if it is deserved if it occurs again. I know I will.

[quote=It is Fake;2424933]
I hope they wait and see if it is deserved if it occurs again. I know I will.[/quote]
I would agree with that.
However, I would also not want individuals here to out-of-hand dismiss the possibility, either.

[quote=It is Fake;2424933]
I hope they wait and see if it is deserved if it occurs again. I know I will.[/quote]

Thats the key right there.

btw how much was it?

[quote=Snake Plissken;2424902]Not wanting to shit up Sheerdog…but, why did you donate to his testing fees?
To make him like you? To get bragging rights? To have something over him?
Personally, I did it because he needed the help and it was the right thing to do.
What he does with it from here on out is on him and defines him, not you.
Know that you did a solid in the dojo and move on.[/quote]

NOT FAIR.

Would I help any other time in a situation like this? - Yeah.
But will I think twice before I help this asshole again, even if he comes along with an even sadder story? - Surely.

[quote=Snake Plissken;2424902]
All of the guys posting on Tripps board are still members here and are welcome to post on both.
Don’t make it us/them because it isn’t. The community is small enough without making it smaller.[/quote]

NOT FAIR.

I never had any issues with the glorious nation of Trippistan, the way it was inaugurated, and all of the sensible posters that migrated there.
I think Master Tripp, Kimbo, War Wheel and the others should have stayed here.

  • It’s Mr Acre in particular that I dislike for having responded to our courtesy with rudeness and disrespect.

[quote=Snake Plissken;2424902]
If reports are true, there was enough going on in the background that many of us were unawares of.
If you need a face to put on the concept of “blame” you are just creating a hydra.[/quote]

Well, from all we know, Matt started his slightly bipolar superdrama because Cy dared to question some of Mr Arce’s claims - a matter that has not been discussed ever since because of the whole Hardingate BS.

Not trying to be an asshole, but, indeed, noone ever cared to reinitialize the investigation on Arce AFAIK,
while we have contented to argue about some crippled fatman’s greenbelt from 1985.

NOT FAIR.

I don’t know about you, but when someone else does something for me, I’m usually pretty awesome GODDAMN grateful.
Like, when someone shares his food; or his tobacco. Or pays my fucking belt fee.
The last thing I would do then is to insult people all around and then push my business partner to instigate some realm-shattering drama.

IIF: I have NO PROBLEM with my posts and the related ones being moved. They were not relevant to the thread. Neither was Dsimons bullshit. I’m tired of that fuckhead though. Every time he posts it’s some mealy mouthed shit.
All of the people involved in this having me actually looking forward to putting a beating on Matt just to give them the middle finger by proxy.

[quote=chainpunch;2425029]Thats the key right there.

btw how much was it?[/quote]

Honestly? I’d have to look my amount was $10 if IIRC.

[quote=Pilgrim;2424868]Good cull, IIF. Pushups.

:psyduck: This shitfest will go on forever, or won’t it?

Sorry, but do you remember all the people you have trained with?

I left my last dojo a month ago, after training there eights months straight, going out to drink with some of my pals there quite regularly, and on and on, and I couldn’t remember half of their names without Facebook any more.
When I think back to my prior dojo experiences, I usually remember them fondly as “the hot chick”, or “the fat dude”.
So, that argument would not be valid on my list.

  • I am pretty convinced that he lied about his entire MA background, but I think it’s pretty irrelevant if to prove it at this point.

The reason I am annoyed with Chuck is that I disliked the way he treated others, if at all, THIS should be discussed again.

But, hell, did he have beginner judo training yes or no? I don’t give a flying fuck.[/quote]

there was the guy with the lazy eye… i slapped it right again for him!

seriouly yeah I agree 100% the judo is irrelevant