Thanks!
Emuleing it right away!
I’m enjoying the rules of power, but it’s not really focused on pickup, it seems like more of a workplace thing. I don’t think I’d bother with Art of Seduction.
It’s not worth more than skimming the Table of Contents. It’s the usual armchair seduction stuff that the community experimented with and rejected in the very beginning. His stuff has seen a revival recently in the news and such.
I’d have to second that. Being successful attracts women more than all the PU books printed. Besides, I’m married, so I’m not scamming for chicks anymore. I like what Scarface said-
“First,you getta the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman”.
I would also add “The Millionaire Next Door” - here’s an article that sums up some of it.
http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/stanley-millionaire.html
there is another book on the differences between the middle class and the rich that just came out, but you would be better off just going into Borders and reading it. It’s very short and overpriced.
Being successful in one area of life doesn’t mean you get tons of ass. Lots of guys at PU seminars are guys who are very successful in their businesses and so forth.
I’m not kidding either. One of the guys who asked me for help was a really cool guy, 3 BMWs, was the franchise owner of a couple of those chained muffler repair places, i forget the name. He had dough, was good looking, etc. COulda had himself a gold digger wife if he wanted, probably a hot one. But he wanted to see what the PU world was all about and it was night and day from the kind of hanger-on ass you get being “successful.”
For those who maybe have questionable morals, you can achieve a level of success with women that is really beyond belief. Success in this case is defined as having sex with. As far as getting married and all that, that’s another community.
To be rather honest, in the SHORT TERM being successful actually works against a lot of guys who just want to be players because girls will often try to “be-wife” successful guys and play the whole Rules type of game with them, making them wait. Girls are more apt to just have one-night stands or fuck-buddy relationships with guys who are “less than successful”, but if your goal is just sex, that’s good. You can have the best of both worlds of course, and that’s one goal many of us have. Successful in business and bang more women than our neighborhood combined.
“The Game” is not really good instruction and it only shows the viewpoint of one particular camp of the PU community, not the community as a whole, and Style and Mystery have always had a very inflated view of their stature. Another problem with it is that the guys in it were the ones I mentioned above, guys who started out bad trying to get average, then got better than average+.
In the beginning, most people in it were guys who were already players and dogs, who had a fetish for upping their sexual odometer. Then, little by little, the geeks and virgins came, and the character changed from a community of players into basically a pretty wimpy self-help community where bad-luck guys trying to reach an average level of success with women. But some still push through and get to a pretty insane level of success, but that’s not the goal much anymore, to my chagrin, which has also lowered my participation in it quite a bit.
The top questions used to be “how do I fuck all three roommates without causing jealousy” now it’s something like “How do I work up the courage to say hi?”. Night and day. It’s also taken on this terrible, very TMA-like New Age tint where people talk about chakras and sexual chi and shit like that. It’s horrible.
I also have something very interesting for you guys who have read the book to look at. This may surprise you: Mystery lost the name and ownership of the “Mystery Method Company” name to his business partner Savoy in a very funny legal drama.
One side:
http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2604
The other side:
http://therealsavoy.blogspot.com/2007/03/drama-v2.html
what can anyone tell me about the TV series?
The Pickup Artist
is it directly related to this book we’re all discussing?
I’ve been downloading it, but never have time to watch it
And whoever has seen it, is it purely for entertainment? is it a reality type of show? Does it try to teach what they do? i have no idea what the show is like…and don’t wanna waste my time in case its a load of garbage
(at least if they’re the real people that were in the book, then i’d be interested to watch the show just to see how geeky these guys are)
You’re right on a lot of points. I got a lot of tail when I didn’t have a pot to piss in. At the same time, girls won’t jump in the sack so easy if they want you for husband material. Never give it this much thought, as a technique, or anything.
I have to agree with you that using NLP and social science is not just picking up girls. Even though it’s good exercise to confront your fears (and you may get laid to) and most men have fear of talking to a beautiful woman and when most men learn to play the game or how to influence others. And once they get past that one fear of talking to women or whoever, they incorporate it to help them in many other areas of life such as business, sales, dealing with people in general. It’s something everybody should learn.
also have something very interesting for you guys who have read the book to look at. This may surprise you: Mystery lost the name and ownership of the “Mystery Method Company” name to his business partner Savoy
And then he made a new company the Venetian arts it’s like martial arts LOL
I have a funny question. Isn’t Mystery giving away his techniques for free going to ruin it for everyone? I mean, won’t chicks watch the show and then get pissed when guys try the moves on them? Is he and the community coming up with new stuff all the time?
This reminds me of when my best friend used to use all the tips in Maxim magazine on girls in the bars, and he had moderate success. He couldn’t figure out why he wasn’t batting a 100 and our old martial arts instructor told him that gals read those mags too.
I recommend everyone try reading this book.
It has worked wonders for me. Nothing puts a girl on her back like a well timed ura nage.
Ahh young grasshopper you haven’t learned the “no touch” pickup yet.