Phoenix you cannot tell me his dick waving wasn’t an indirect threat. If you think it wasn’t…your high.
And he does have a point, the crazy thing is Ninpo has been tried and tested and its been found lacking.
This is the problem I have with ninja lovers (not that you aren’t Phoenix, I’m just stating something) they all think they’ve “come up with new proof” its just the same shithole recycled…nothing new.
Sigh. I’ve never claimed to beat hundreds of people with chi blasts or claimed that my techniques are too deadly. Yeah there are some we dont use when we practice cause they’re mean, not too deadly. I mean doing a tai otoshi or something with a neck strike to cause the body drop rather than the Judo taught method. Yeah, you could use it in practice but if you do it that session is over.
Just because you dont have a belt in Shoot Fighting doesnt mean you’re godlike at it either. I’m not saying I could beat anyone here, but what I am saying is that my training is not bullshit. I grapple well against most people, I may not win but I will give them a pretty difficult time in a grapple until submission style match.
Why are you trying to bash me right away Ghost? I didnt do shit to.
BTW…this whole “Don’t make fun of it crap is getting old”.
I don’t have to take the art to know its full of shit.
Should I take every art myself even if multiple times its been proven bullshido?
What would change about it between me and the other 100 people?
Just replying to your post to me. Don’t like the fire? Don’t put your feet near the flame.
I’m still not understanding why the hell your bringing up your judo and shit, it proves nothing in this whole thing. And I’m not claiming to be godlike because we don’t have belts…you asked me, and I told you. We don’t have belts because they don’t matter.
If you don’t use it in practice…what makes you think you’ll use it in the street? Your not going to do a uppercut punch in a fight if you don’t practice it in class…its a basic principle.
I did a little Budo Taijutsu a few years back. The only real problem I had with it was that it was rather intricate and time consuming. I felt I just didn’t have time to put all that effort into becoming T3H D34D7Y.
I don’t think it’s bad, if you can see past the mysticism stuff that some dojos push…I mean, we all know some guys are just turned on by that stuff. I, personally, am not.
But if you have time to commit to it, then why the hell not? It’ll probably make you at least a half decent fighter, if you look at it in a practical sense.
I’ll tell you for a fact I wasnt threatening you. But I would not turn down a grapple to submission style match with you as long as you arent gunna be a dick and crank a sub if you get one after I tap out. Cause thats just not cool coming from anyone.
I am not trying to come up with new evidence that Ninjitsu doenst suck. I’ll say this. Most “ninjitsu” out there is pure bullshit. I am being trained in what is being called Bujinkan and I just jumped into a Judo school a little bit ago. Due to injuries I have only been able to practice for about two months of the last collective three. I am one of the best ground grapplers there and thats without me using submissions that I know because they arent legal in Judo. I am refering to wristlocks, forearm locks and pressure points.
If my training is BS. Then you’re indirectly admitting to me being one of the most quick learning students out there. I find it hard to believe in a respectable dojo such as my Judo one that a person with 0 real MA experience could become one of the better newaza fighters in 2 months.
The problem is finding legit schools, and once you find a legit school, pusing past the mysticism crap. Overall, its not worth the time of extra training.
Put it this way (I’m atheist but I’ll embelish for example sake): If you had to choose between praying to god to get your questions answered, or going through three hours of ritualistic sermons and different hand movements…which would you pick?
Dear Kumaoni,
threatning me will get you nowhere. I’ve made this clear dumbass. You live in Canada…two different countries here.
Past that now (though it’ll be brought up again no doubt). I’m not saying your training is bullshit, I’m saying this ninpo shit is. Judo-Awesome.
See my above posts for further reference.
Why mention Judo? Because Judo is a respected martial art. You take it and receive a higher belt or beat some higher belt Judoka and people generally say “hey, this guy knows some grappling.” I took an art that is bullshit by your standards Ghost and I am a very decent grappler after 2 months in this respectable martial art. Am I that naturally talented? Because I gotta admit, you’re flattering me here 
I agree that some techniques that are “too deadly to practice” are bullshit. But its not like we dont practice them. You know when you do standing grappling in a class or do controlled throws with people in a grappling match? Same thing. Thats how we’ll practice those. What I am saying is we dont do them in randori becaue we dont want to cause that kind of damage. So instead we will move in for the move as normal and touch the throat or something and call out “gotcha” or something like “freeze” where both people will stop and see okay yeah if he had attacked my throat like he should have alongside his proper footwork and manipulation of my spine, yeah I’d be fucked up.
I am not threatening you. I am just saying that I will prove my training is not bullshit if you want. I am never going to turn down a grappling match as long as the opponent isnt going to break my limb if he gets a move on me.
I am not threatening you. Stop being so defensive please. I am trying to have a diplomatic conversation with you about the training involved in Ninjitsu/Bujinkan
Well, I’ve made my choice with the system and concepts I’ve chosen to practice and follow. I mean, obviously, I abstained from Budo Taijutsu some time ago.
Yes, there are many of these types of schools that are absolute crap. If there weren’t, surely this forum wouldn’t exist. The thing is, and I staunchly believe this, is that there’s a market out there for crap. As stupid as some of these people are for teaching it, there are hundreds of people who are far stupider that are willing to spend their dollar on it.
What I’m saying here is that, the art in question here, be it Budo Taijutsu or Togakure Ryu or whatever, in it’s essence, is not crap. It actually can be quite effective, streetwise, when properly used. Like I said, the only problem I had with it, was that I simply didn’t have the time to commit to something like that - it wasn’t what I was looking for. However, that being said, if I wanted to say that Budo Taijutsu sucked ass, I would have more justification for doing so because I actually tried it.
I’m not bringing it up too much because I know your full of shit. Anyone who has to talk about their accomplishments in a thread like this: Is full of shit. No other way to put it.
I’m not flattering you, I’m letting everyone else laugh at your lies.
And your training in Ninpo (whatever you wanna call it specifically), is bullshit as well.
No one is impressed, no one cares. This thread has all ready been done a billion times by a billion other guys who think they are the shit.
You are not a natural, you are not even that good after two months of training. You are simply another one of the masses…join the club and get the fuck over yourself.
A quick bit of info. While some schools practice hand weaving, we do not (or at least I have not been taught it yet) I do, however, use meditation which in my opinion is more controlled breathing than anything. I had a short lived belief in using chi to really attack people but now I consider it more to be proper breathing, kinetics and physics while attacking a person.
Meditation is calming before a match or sparring with someone. Give it a shot sometime.
The overall problem being though that after enough people experience it and claim its bullshit, and these people are pretty reliable…the necessity is no longer there for everyone to try it for themselves. It gets old, and nothing changes. Taijutsu is proven worthless. YES! They’re may be some good things in there, but overall its not worth the time.
No thanks, I did that crap when I was 12, and if I’m smart enough to figure out that at the age of 12 its all psychological…whats your excuse?
Meditation is a completely seperate topic with different issues and viewpoints. Now isn’t the time.
Why are you attacking me like this? You know you look like the bad guy here. You just keep saying my training is bullshit without any proof.
The reason I bring up these things is to show you I have limited experience in Judo, and the only other grappling I know is from Bujinkan. Yet I can do well against people. My first day back against people in grappling I couldnt be touched. I’ll admit, that blackbelt could’ve beaten me but he was being nice and letting me work on my guard/shrimping.
You dont know me from a hole in the ground and you’re putting me down like a schoolyard bully. I think YOU should get over YOURself
Two of you,go for a duel~~~
Taijutsu which translates basicly into manipulation of the body, is useless?
Hey, you know if your spine is alined incorrectly (due to simple techniques) a person can be brought down with a finger? I’ve seen it done, had it done to me, and done it to others. No, you cant do it in a fight. Its the principle that once your spine is misaligned, you can not do much to prevent a throw/takedown
I know you’re just tryin to be smart 
But sure, I will put myself up against anyone from this forum, even J-Lau. And I will proudly get my ass kicked by him!
Maybe its the fact that you need to be bullied because your talking shit. Where have I claimed to tap anyone out? Yet in this post alone you tell everyone how untouchable you are.
Do you think it gets old for the Bullshido members here? Don’t you think we get tired of hearing how amazing you ninjas are?
Also, when you get older you’ll realize its not about what people think you look like. I may “Look like a bady guy” to you, but that’s because your a keyboard warrior telling us your amazing stories.
So when do I get to hear about your fight with the Gracie family?