Simco Investigation - Investigative Leads

This school (http://www.bjjfighter.com/ ) recently opened near Gene, and the head instructor, Brian McLaughlin, used to be one of Gene’s students.

He also posted on NHBGear a few years ago that he actually wrote the latest version of Gene’s book for him, as was pissed at Gene for not giving him credit for the writing.

Posting here: http://www.nhbgear.com/forum/index.php/topic,66916.msg1008615.html#msg1008615

as BJJ Fighter – same name as the website for the above school.

This is part of an e-mail Heather Simco sent to me about Brian


Mr. Browning,
I sent this separate email to you with information that does not to be printed on the site, but only as evidence to substantiate my statements. Regarding evidence against McLaughlin, I believe that his quote admitting Gene wrote the book and his claim being mathematically impossible, me being a witness and editor on the book, and the fact that it is his burden to prove such an outrageous claim which he obviously cannot is all the evidence you need to remove his statement.

Second e-mail

In regards to McLaughlin’s claim about writing 90% of the Master Text, it is first of all mathematically impossible. The first version of the Master Text was 328 pages which McLaughlin was not hired to work on. The second printing of the Master Text was 783 pages long where he acted only as an editor for some of the technique descriptions. Even if his claim was accurate, it would still be mathematically impossible. However his claim is untrue, and insulting to not only Gene, but myself as well because I acted as an editor on this book. We did pay him for his editing and took him off of dues so that he would not have to take on an extra job in high school in order for him to focus on training and getting good grades. In the forth printing of the book which we are in right now, the book was completely reworked with new editors that fixed not only grammatical errors, but also biographical inaccuracies as well, due to mistakes made by some editors on previous versions, this is why McLaughlin is no longer “credited” as an editor on the current printing and revision of the Master Text. Gene has always been forthright about improving his products, correcting his mistakes and provides a history and listing of all his publications on his website: www.genesimco.com/books. The reason McLaughlin spreads lies about Gene is to save face after being asked to leave our school for misconduct about 5 years ago.

Over a thousand copies were accidentally printed without a credit page leaving out everyone who edited the book, not just McLaughlin but myself included. The mistake has been corrected by the printing company and future printings of the Master Text will include the credits page and a few other missing pages that are unrelated to jiujitsu techniques.

So in the wiki it reads.

“According to a forum thread, an uncredited student, Brian McLaughlin, was largely responsible for the second edition of Simco’s financially successful book, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu: The Master Text.”

The “mathematically impossible” doesn’t seem to hold water. She seems to be saying that because the second edition was not 9 times as large as the first edition, he could not have written 90% of the book.

If, however, as Brian claims, he re-wrote all the technique descriptions, the ratio of the first edition pages to the second edition pages has no bearing on his claim, as he would have re-written all the material that was in the first edition plus most of the second.

Looks like a whole bunch of “he said” – “he-said”.

Okay, lets make up a list of questions to ask Brian and then contact him. Lets keep adding to the list below.

  1. Did you ever claim that you had written 90% of the second version of the master text?

  2. What was Heather Simco’s role as an editor of this text?

  3. How many editors were there?

  4. What were their names?

  5. Did you serve as an editor or as a writer?

  6. Here is Heather’s description of this process:

In regards to McLaughlin’s claim about writing 90% of the Master Text, it is first of all mathematically impossible. The first version of the Master Text was 328 pages which McLaughlin was not hired to work on. The second printing of the Master Text was 783 pages long where he acted only as an editor for some of the technique descriptions. Even if his claim was accurate, it would still be mathematically impossible. However his claim is untrue, and insulting to not only Gene, but myself as well because I acted as an editor on this book. We did pay him for his editing and took him off of dues so that he would not have to take on an extra job in high school in order for him to focus on training and getting good grades. In the forth printing of the book which we are in right now, the book was completely reworked with new editors that fixed not only grammatical errors, but also biographical inaccuracies as well, due to mistakes made by some editors on previous versions, this is why McLaughlin is no longer “credited” as an editor on the current printing and revision of the Master Text.

  1. Heather is implying that your name was removed because of errors in the text (grammatical and factual) were their such inaccuracies in your work?

Yup, thats what we have, he said/she said, and we need to locate the other editors. Lets finish the questions and contact Brian.

How about: Were you asked to leave Simco’s school five years ago for misconduct, and would you care to comment on this accusation?

Very good!

  1. You’ve commented that the person who taught Simco 90% of his BJJ techniques is not on speaking terms with him any more. Who is that person, and when did he train Simco?

  2. Did you ever claim that you had written 90% of the second version of the master text?

  3. What was Heather Simco’s role as an editor of this text?

  4. How many editors were there?

  5. What were their names?

  6. Did you serve as an editor or as a writer?

  7. Here is Heather’s description of this process:

In regards to McLaughlin’s claim about writing 90% of the Master Text, it is first of all mathematically impossible. The first version of the Master Text was 328 pages which McLaughlin was not hired to work on. The second printing of the Master Text was 783 pages long where he acted only as an editor for some of the technique descriptions. Even if his claim was accurate, it would still be mathematically impossible. However his claim is untrue, and insulting to not only Gene, but myself as well because I acted as an editor on this book. We did pay him for his editing and took him off of dues so that he would not have to take on an extra job in high school in order for him to focus on training and getting good grades. In the forth printing of the book which we are in right now, the book was completely reworked with new editors that fixed not only grammatical errors, but also biographical inaccuracies as well, due to mistakes made by some editors on previous versions, this is why McLaughlin is no longer “credited” as an editor on the current printing and revision of the Master Text.

  1. Heather is implying that your name was removed because of errors in the text (grammatical and factual) were their such problems in your work?

  2. Were you asked to leave Simco’s school five years ago for misconduct, and would you care to comment on this accusation?

On the 90% issue – it looks like Mclaughlin never claimed to have written 90% of the book, I believe Gene’s sister is combining the two statements above and getting the “claims to have written 90% of the book”

Actually his wife. :slight_smile:

Sam – I noticed that our friend bhbjj hasn’t posted since you said this in post #302 of the main thread. If bhbjj trains at a bjj school “twenty minutes away from Millbrook” he could be at Mclaughlin’s school.

The POJO editor you talked to said one of our posters was a Simco competitor, and registered for the POJO forum using an email address associated with one of Simco’s competitors. Does the email address bhbjj used to register on BS link him to McLaughlin?

Mr. McLaughlin is probably not hard to contact by email. The webpage for his school has a contact form, or he can be emailed directly at Hudsonvalleybjj@gmail.com. Is that a reasonable way to proceed?

Simco’s school is, indeed, not far from McLaughlin’s.

Yes, Please e-mail him and see if he will talk to us. If he won’t answer e-mail then I can call him.

Email sent:

"Hi. My name is Cxxxx Hxxxxx. I’m trying to reach Brian McLaughlin. I’m doing this on behalf of Bullshido, a martial arts discussion forum. We have some questions about our article on Eugene Simco (http://www.bullshido.org/Gene_Simco) and we were hoping Mr. McLaughlin could provide us with some information. Can you forward this request to him?

"We can ask our questions through email or by phone, as Mr. McLaughlin prefers. I can be contacted at xxxxxx@gmail.com, or reached by phone at xxx-xxx-xxxx.

"Thanks in advance for letting him know of this request.

“CCH”

Regarding the Pojo posters that coincide with the BS posters, there were only three posters on the Pojo forum in regard to Simco…as far as I can tell since some were deleted.

They are myself - outwithit on PoJo
1point 2 -same screen name on both forums
Joecos was the third that I know of…is Joecos Krottyguy on PoJo?

Thonly other poster discussing Simco, besides the editors there, was agentsquirrel, who seems to be a regular on that forum…

Am I missing anyone?

Steve; I am indeed “krottyguy” i believe there were a couple of other posts from another poster that did not last long, and I was wondering if bhbjj might have been the poster.

He has not replied to my email at this writing. Calling his school at 845-245-3318 may be the next step.

Okay, I’ll call unless someone else is willing to use their real name.

Is’nt Brian McLaughlin on TUF right now? Are they still filming? If so, he may not be availablr for a while…