sandbag2: master of low content threads

[sandbag2]

I have grappled big guys who have 6 years of wrestling. And some are kind of easy because they have weak necks. A strong grappler with a weak neck, is like a boxer with a glass jaw. He won’t last.
When I’m sizing someone up, I always check the neck firts. If the neck looks weak, I plan on having an easy graple. It’s easy to push their heads down, thus gaining access ti their backs.
Even in MT you can push the head down where you can land knees.

[sandbag2]

I must add that most wrestlers have strong necks. But in BJJ, the neck goes through allot more punishment

[sandbag2]

Is there such a thing as a karate grappling tournament?

I heard that there where these weird kinds of grappling.
like a karate grappling challenge. Would live to watch one.

[jnp]

This post concerns a whiny message sandbag2 left me on my profile.

sandbag2, how are these posts good technical advice? How are they even remotely technical at all? You made a few vague comments about controlling the neck. That’s nice, but that doesn’t mean they have anything to do with technique. You seem to be confused about this, so I will give you an example of a post containing technical information.

@jnp

How to shoot for the leg, Theory: In order to have good momentum it is necessary to step between or even past the line formed by your opponents feet with your lead foot. This momentum is crucial to bend your opponent at the waist before his upper torso and legs move. This prevents your opponent’s ability to sprawl properly. In wrestling we called it the ‘penetration step’. Good penetration means literally stepping behind your opponent with your lead foot when you shoot.

Telegraphing, shooting from too far out or a weak shoot by itself will give your opponent ample time to sprawl. Of these three the last two are by far the easiest to remedy and solutions for both are proposed below.

How to shoot for the leg, Application: Close the gap until you’re in range to step quickly across the line formed by his feet. Shoot and continue driving forward until your lead leg knee touches the ground. Drive your shoulder into his hip to help bend him over. After your knee makes contact, your trailing leg steps up, foot on the ground, knee up, to provide base.

When shooting on the outside, simply carry the line formed by his feet past his feet and step across that line when shooting. A good double leg should result in your opponent’s weight balanced squarely on your shoulders with his feet and arms in the air. You essentially scoop them up at the waist. To do this you must shoot past where your opponent is standing. So the more distant your shoot, the more you handicap yourself.

Drill for making the good penetration…step: Take a big step forward with your ‘first’ leg, plant the foot and drive the leg down until the knee touches the mat. Your back leg should trail behind you relaxed so you can quickly step take a big step foward with it. Do not raise up, instead drive that knee down, take a big step forward with your ‘first’ leg again, drive the knee down and so on.

When setting up the shot for the leg, first step in to your opponent like you want to tie up with him greco-roman style. From this point on you vary your setup every time.

1. Tie up, push off and immediately shoot for the leg the second you clear his arms. So when I say push off and shoot, I mean shoot from extreme close range.

2. Come in to tie up again, the second his arms come up to meet yours place the ‘V’ formed by your thumb and four fingers right above at least one, preferably both, of his elbows and push them upwards so you can immediately go for the leg.

3. Shoot from normal range.

Disguise your shoot. Judoka use kuzushi to deceive or off-balance their opponents. You think wrestlers don’t do the same thing? Of course we do. We simply do it differently than Judoka. Reach out like you’re going to push his head, when he reaches up to intercept with his arms, you shoot. One more thing, when you decide to shoot, you CANNOT hesitate. A good shoot is a fully committed shoot.

Note: We were taught to drag the top of the back leg foot across the mat. If you do this without wrestling shoes you will quickly leave the majority of your skin from the top of your foot on the mat.

Things to avoid when shooting the double/single:

1. DO NOT bend at the waist when you shoot, bend at the knees. DO NOT lean farther forward than a forty-five degree angle. If you shoot on an even half-ass wrestler with your body in an inverted “L” shape (bent at the waist) they WILL wreck your shit. Practice changing levels by bending your knees when you shoot.

2. Keep your elbows tucked into your sides until the last possible moment when you shoot. If you shoot with your arms out from your body it is very easy for your opponent to catch your arms with the over-under arm hooks and pancake you over onto your ass.

Now quit whining. It’s pathetic.

I am applying the same rules to you that I do to everyone else, including myself. You are either not smart enough, or not experienced enough to know the difference between posts that contains useful technical information and ones that are merely general comments, like the ones you made above.

[sandbag2]

Aliright I think I get it now.

After reading the example, I can see where my posts fell short of greatness.
I won’t post on the technique board anymore. At least until, I can come up with some technique, and I have not invented any worth mentioning.
Where would I post the advice stuff?
I won’t wine anymore, because I don’t want to be like a sissy.
Martial artists should not wine anyway.

[It-is-fake]

Come back in ten years an we’ll let you know.

[jnp]

@sandbag2;2151951

Where would I post the advice stuff?

If you want to contribute to, or start a technical thread, stick to the Basic Technique forum. Posting requirements are more lenient in there.

Since you seem to be reasonable, I will do my best to help you out. I’m all about reciprocity.

[sandbag2]

Alright, thanks. By the way, your example about takedowns actually helped me.

[Zapruder]

@sandbag2;2150454

I always check the neck first.

You like the adams apple dont cha, good for you buddy, the world should be more accepting like Thailand eh?