[QUOTE=DKJr;2816442]Sure if you stay flailing on your back like a porn star.
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If you go re-read his post, that is what Southpaw had said was his “epiphany”.
the simple and obvious point that I apparently ignored (ie if I fall down or get knocked down in a fight, I’m not going to try and sit up into butterfly guard)
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816447]Hahaha, i so called this.
Did you make it through your second week already?
Pride 4 was over 15 years ago, you’ve got at least that much catching up to do.
Let us all in on your vast insight after you learn a technical standup as well.[/QUOTE]
This isn’t YMAS or Trollshido. Basic Technique Forum.
Someone needs to go sit in the corner all right, but it’s not me.
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816556]If you go re-read his post, that is what Southpaw had said was his “epiphany”.[/QUOTE]
Did you consider that maybe a blue belt knows something that you don’t?
Besides, you didn’t add anything technical to the thread. Other posters stated how an open guard could be a viable option, which is the overall theme of the OP, not just butterfly guard.
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816564]Did you consider that maybe a blue belt knows something that you don’t?
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Who, Southpaw? Does the fact that I was concurring with him suggest that maybe I considered his entire post? Maybe you just jumped in here to play on the trollwagon?
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816564]
Besides, you didn’t add anything technical to the thread. Other posters stated how an open guard could be a viable option, which is the overall theme of the OP, not just butterfly guard.[/QUOTE]
So, you didn’t like my response to Southpaw, and according to you anything I add here needs to be “technical” in nature? No, and if an actual mod disagrees they can tell me so. You’re not a mod. Here’s one, in a sticky for this forum you probably never read: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115963
I think avoiding kicks to the head while seated is a pretty technical aspect of "open guard strategy" outside of competition (the actual theme of the thread), in fact DKJr pointed out several solutions, BKR pointed out others.
Butt scoots for instance.
What exactly did you contribute to this thread other than to troll? I didn’t think so.
[QUOTE=Southpaw;2816385] Any recommendations on good, non-sport-related open guard strategy[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816557]This isn’t YMAS or Trollshido. Basic Technique Forum.
Someone needs to go sit in the corner all right, but it’s not me.[/QUOTE]
You just can’t shut up can you?
What you said is bullshit and i gave you two relevant hints why.
First, Carlson Gracie fifghter Alan Goes fought Sakuraba to a draw basically sitting “on his butt” the whole time, over 15 years ago.
He arguably would have won that fight had the rules allowed decisions.
Hell, Saku took the head kicks.
Second, i’m guessing (an educated guess that is) you haven’t even covered stand-ups and the like as a weeks old white belt, and your answers support that.
And no, “I’m not going to try and sit up into butterfly guard” /= “you’ll probably get kicked in the head”.
Lastly, yes this is a basic technique forum, but you offered no real technique commentary and you don’t even have the basics, so stfu and go train.
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816580]You just can’t shut up can you?
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Says the guy who contributed nothing to this thread until he saw I posted in it?
What’s your background in BJJ Cheng? Just curious.
Are you going to troll every BJJ post I make from now on?
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816580]
What you said is bullshit and i gave you two relevant hints why.
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No it’s not bullshit in the context of Southpaw’s OP. Your “relevant hints” are the real bullshit.
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816580]
First, Carlson Gracie fifghter Alan Goes fought Sakuraba to a draw basically sitting “on his butt” the whole time, over 15 years ago.
He arguably would have won that fight had the rules allowed decisions.
Hell, Saku took the head kicks.
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This bullshit is not in the context of
non-sport-related open guard
Learn to read OPs before trolling.
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816580]
Second, i’m guessing (an educated guess that is) you haven’t even covered stand-ups and the like as a weeks old white belt, and your answers support that.
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Your guess is pretty off topic and irrelevant to the OP, or my response, which is related to, once again:
non-sport-related open guard
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816580]
And no, “I’m not going to try and sit up into butterfly guard” /= “you’ll probably get kicked in the head”.
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Reading comprehension fail, in your part. Not surprised given your extreme desire for me to make any BJJ posts so you can entertain yourself by trolling all of them, which is exactly what you’re doing here.
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816580]
Lastly, yes this is a basic technique forum, but you offered no real technique commentary and you don’t even have the basics, so stfu and go train.[/QUOTE]
Posts like yours and itwasntme’s are the reason this is only the 12th thread in here so far this year.
You reap what you sow, idiot. My one tiny post making a supporting argument for Southpaw’s comment did not require your questionable expertise on open guard, or itwasntme’s bandwagon attempt.
I think you of all people need to go read JNP’s sticky.
Removed from: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=122687
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816557]This isn’t YMAS or Trollshido. Basic Technique Forum.[/QUOTE]
You wrote this, and then you proceeded to derail the thread? Can you say cognitive dissonance?
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816557]Someone needs to go sit in the corner all right, but it’s not me.[/QUOTE]
You and I have already had a discussion about not getting drawn into off topic arguments in the Technique areas. Which is why if this happens again, I will ban you from them.
I don’t care if you think Chen started it. He is not a repeat offender. You are.
Now show me you have some self restraint and refrain from responding to my post.
Thank you jnp, i was waiting for this to get sent here.
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816582]Says the guy who contributed nothing to this thread until he saw I posted in it?
What’s your background in BJJ Cheng? Just curious.
Are you going to troll every BJJ post I make from now on? [/quote]
LOL, my BJJ predates your ED.
From the month you joined this site:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=96597
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816615]Thank you jnp, i was waiting for this to get sent here.
LOL, my BJJ predates your ED.
From the month you joined this site:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=96597[/QUOTE]
Your Hung ga and your BJJ both suck, and your post should get moved here too because it targeted me (you “called it” remember?), had nothing to do with Southpaw’s OP about non-sport situations.
I have no problem following JNP’s instructions, but you deserve no respect. You were simply waiting for me to make a post in a BJJ context so you could troll it. You won that round.
You will as usual say I am “crying” or that I should “shut up” etc etc for merely replying to you. Always trying to create the illusion that your experience and qualifications are so much better than mine. This game has gotten REALLY old.
You know you’re not my REAL si-hing right? My real si-hings are honest, respectful people. You are acting like the mean uncle in a kung fu movie…that’s your fantasy.
I promise to never again offend the Basic Technique forum with my offensive “white belt” comments.
Now fuck off, for just once.
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816568]Who, Southpaw? Does the fact that I was concurring with him suggest that maybe I considered his entire post? Maybe you just jumped in here to play on the trollwagon?[/quote]
No, you weren’t. You were spewing some bullshit about something you know next to nothing about.
So, you didn’t like my response to Southpaw, and according to you anything I add here needs to be “technical” in nature? No, and if an actual mod disagrees they can tell me so. You’re not a mod. Here’s one, in a sticky for this forum you probably never read: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115963
I think avoiding kicks to the head while seated is a pretty technical aspect of "open guard strategy" outside of competition (the actual theme of the thread), in fact DKJr pointed out several solutions, BKR pointed out others.
Butt scoots for instance.
What exactly did you contribute to this thread other than to troll? I didn’t think so.
Troll?
LOL
I was hoping you would actually take a step back and look at what you said, how others responded to your statement, and realize how dumb it was before you continued to usher out “advice.”
[QUOTE=Southpaw;2816385]Any recommendations on good, non-sport-related open guard strategy books or videos?[/QUOTE]
I’m confused as to why you quoted this…
What you said was neither good, a book, nor a video.
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816582]
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ED, business as usual.
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816622]No, you weren’t. You were spewing some bullshit about something you know next to nothing about.
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No, I made an argument to support Southpaw’s epiphany that sitting in open guard in a non-sport scenario will get you kicked in the head.
So, expert on sparring and fighting that you are: where is the fallacy exactly? Otherwise you are barking up the wrong tree, as usual, in subjects you know zip about yourself.
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816622]
I was hoping you would actually take a step back and look at what you said, how others responded to your statement, and realize how dumb it was before you continued to usher out “advice.”
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How “others” responded? Or how about Cheng trolled because he had been waiting for me to make a BJJ post and you got on his nuts for a ride?
He had posted several days prior about how he couldn’t wait to see my try to post a BJJ comment, so his input was ENTIRELY predictable. What I hadn’t thought about what itwasntme still being very butthurt.
I ushered out ZERO advice. I supported Southpaw’s last paragraph with a comment based on what happened to Sumo in UFC1, since it technically didn’t fall under the “sport” scenarios of later events.
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816622]
I’m confused
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You’re fucking confused is right.
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816625]ED, business as usual.[/QUOTE]
Let’s see if I can make it to Hawaii again some day in the future and if you are willing to do some real business and put your body where your mouth usually is.
I think you are probably a total chicken shit in real life. For a while I thought maybe you were just fooling around with me, but now I’ve lost all hope that you have any redeemable qualities in person.
Last I heard, you hide and tuck dick when people try to meet up with you, is that true?
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816628]
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Hahahaa!
Predicting you’d make ignorant comments and mocking you when you do /= waiting for you to do so.
You couldn’t help yourself in spite of the prediction, that makes you my plaything.
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816628]No, I made an argument to support Southpaw’s epiphany that sitting in open guard in a non-sport scenario will get you kicked in the head.
So, expert on sparring and fighting that you are: where is the fallacy exactly? Otherwise you are barking up the wrong tree, as usual, in subjects you know zip about yourself.[/quote]
Holy shit, how about some honesty? Is the butt scoot viable or will Southpaw get kicked in the head?
What I was trying to get across was that if the best you have is, “you might get kicked in the head,” maybe leave the advice to people who can state more than the obvious.
How “others” responded? Or how about Cheng trolled because he had been waiting for me to make a BJJ post and you got on his nuts for a ride?
And dkjr.
He had posted several days prior about how he couldn’t wait to see my try to post a BJJ comment, so his input was ENTIRELY predictable. What I hadn’t thought about what itwasntme still being very butthurt.
I don’t care what he posted. Irrelevance is irrelevant.
And what am I butthurt over?
I ushered out ZERO advice.
So you admit to breaking forum policy, yet believe chen should be held to a different standard. Cool.
You’re fucking confused is right.
Oh, master of rhetoric.
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816635]Hahahaa!
Predicting you’d make ignorant comments and mocking you when you do /= waiting for you to do so.
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So, you admit the ONLY reason you posted in Basic Tech was to mock me?
So, you had no real desire to CONTRIBUTE to the BASIC TECHNIQUE subforum?
More talk, zero substance by the net ghost from Hawaii
[QUOTE=ChenPengFi;2816635]
You couldn’t help yourself in spite of the prediction, that makes you my plaything.
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Sadist. You are a disgrace to the Hung Ga Kuen, after all.
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816638]So, you admit the ONLY reason you posted in Basic Tech was to mock me?
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Wtf are you on?
I did no such thing, nor does that accurately describe my post.
I first gave a nod to the relevant MMA history.
That was a pretty eye-opening fight for many people, at the time.
(Hint: MMA isn’t a BJJ tournament and Pride rules allowed for kicks to the head of a downed opponent. It’s directly related to your idiocy vis a vis the OP)
I then mentioned one of the most basic BJJ movements that addresses exactly what the OPs post involves.
Mocking you was a simple bonus.
You have issues ED.
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816637]Holy shit, how about some honesty? Is the butt scoot viable or will Southpaw get kicked in the head?
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How many butt scoots have you done during grappling practice>?
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816637]
What I was trying to get across was that if the best you have is, “you might get kicked in the head,” maybe leave the advice to people who can state more than the obvious.
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The “best” I have? Wasn’t shooting for a long, erudite essay on open fucking guard.
Leave the advice? What advice again? The only thing I did was make a supporting argument to Southpaw’s own statement.
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816637]
And dkjr.
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Notice I didn’t respond to him? He’s got a Brown Belt, is why. I may not agree with him, but I respected the tag.
You don’t respect fucking anybody.
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816637]
And what am I butthurt over?
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You tell me. What is Cheng butthurt over? Ask him, I don’t fucking know anymore but he rides my nuts like he thinks he bought them.
It’s all a lie. He’s a fucking nobody who likes to troll me online because it gives him pleasure, and so are you if you support that kind of shit.
I was personally asked by the mods here not to do that. Nice to see ONE person actually gives a shit what the mods think.
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816637]
So you admit to breaking forum policy, yet believe chen should be held to a different standard. Cool.
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Straw arguments like this are all you dime-store argumentum “experts” are ever good for.
There is no Basic Tech forum policy on what my post contained.
Note, it wasn’t even that post that was shit canned, but the derails that followed: namely the ones you and Cheng are responsible for. But I got the thread in my name. You win baby!
[QUOTE=itwasntme;2816637]
Oh, master of rhetoric.[/QUOTE]
No that’s not me. I am not a master of rhetoric.
I am pretty decent at exposing people’s lies in the Real World, when it really matters.
That is the ONLY reason I stay on Bullshido, not to get my “advice” picked to pieces every time I log in.
I rarely give actual FIGHTING advice on Bullshido. Maybe I should start, then at least I’d feel like I earned what I get.
Maybe you need to examine the chip on your own shoulder.
our own shoulder.
[QUOTE=W. Rabbit;2816648]
Notice I didn’t respond to him? He’s got a Brown Belt, is why. I may not agree with him, but I respected the tag.[/quote]
Fucking liar.
Your response to him is the OP here FFS.