Karate: My first karate dojo I attended was when I was around 12.
It was called Fred Vallaries Self Defense Studios. It was a real mcdojo with people getting blackbelts in 6 months. Karate was the shit in those days.
Karate Kempo: When my dad told me Fred Valaries was a scam, I switched to United Self Defense studios. The only sparring we did was a stick.
I have heard of some good Kempo schools with lots of sparring though
TKD: Crap! The instructor was real nice, but I just couldn’t get into the art.
All the kicks where as awkward as possible. Spent allot of time doing form. I fucking hate form, SO manontanus. And you have to remember the Japanese names for each form. I was never a fan of Japanese culture. And I’m not really a fan of much Asian culture either. Lost interest real fast!
Wrestling: The FIRST MA that I actually benifited from. The first art that made me tougher. It was wrestling that I found out trhat the other arts I tried are uneffective in a real situation. The problem is that wrestlers give their back sometimes. Easy to guitine sometimes.
Aikido: How can you win a fight with NO OFFENSE! The best defense is a good offense. Thus Aikido fails! The first MA where most of the upper belts I met where elitest jerks. Aikido has a few good wrist locks, that’s about it.
Otherwise it’s a sissy art.
MT: One of the best kickboxing arts. Powerful roundkicks, fighting in the clinch, knees elbows, and some weastern boxing all simulate stand up fighting realisticly.
BJJ: My favorite. BJJ works wonders. You can take out a guy who has three times as much wrestling as you, or is twice as big.
The only problem is that there are no strikes. Most BJJ schools have accesss to some time of MT though. The grappler has the advantage over the striker, but it’s much better to train in both.
Savate: It’s good but I like MT a little better. Where as MT is good with power, Savate is good with speed.
How much experience do you have in each of these?
A few months in the karate, few months in the TKD, about 6 months of wrestling, or a school semestor and a half. A few months of Aikido. Started MT 3 years ago, but I just go off and on. Bout 1 day a week at the very most. 2 years of harcore BJJ training. Bout 4 or 5 days a week
[quote=sandbag2;2176382]Karate: My first karate dojo I attended was when I was around 12.
It was called Fred Vallaries Self Defense Studios. It was a real mcdojo with people getting blackbelts in 6 months. Karate was the shit in those days.[/quote]
Not much has changed.
Karate Kempo: When my dad told me Fred Valaries was a scam, I switched to United Self Defense studios. The only sparring we did was a stick.
I have heard of some good Kempo schools with lots of sparring though
You sparred with a stick?
TKD: Crap! The instructor was real nice, but I just couldn’t get into the art.
All the kicks where as awkward as possible. Spent allot of time doing form. I fucking hate form, SO manontanus. And you have to remember the Japanese names for each form. I was never a fan of Japanese culture. And I’m not really a fan of much Asian culture either. Lost interest real fast!
TKD is Korean, so either you weren’t learning Japanese names or you just did Karate again.
Wrestling: The FIRST MA that I actually benifited from. The first art that made me tougher. It was wrestling that I found out trhat the other arts I tried are uneffective in a real situation. The problem is that wrestlers give their back sometimes. Easy to guitine sometimes.
Wrestling, though good training, isn’t exactly a real situation. To be a good fighter with wrestling you have to learn to punch someone while pinning them. Also, do you mean guillotine? Because that’s not something you can do when you have someone’s back.
Aikido: How can you win a fight with NO OFFENSE! The best defense is a good offense. Thus Aikido fails! The first MA where most of the upper belts I met where elitest jerks. Aikido has a few good wrist locks, that’s about it.
Otherwise it’s a sissy art.
I guess this one is pretty accurate.
MT: One of the best kickboxing arts. Powerful roundkicks, fighting in the clinch, knees elbows, and some weastern boxing all simulate stand up fighting realisticly.
This too.
BJJ: My favorite. BJJ works wonders. You can take out a guy who has three times as much wrestling as you, or is twice as big.
The only problem is that there are no strikes. Most BJJ schools have accesss to some time of MT though. The grappler has the advantage over the striker, but it’s much better to train in both.
A) Wrestling is not something you can level up via random battles. Defeated wrestlers do not drop gil and equipment.
B) Depends on how good their take downs are.
Savate: It’s good but I like MT a little better. Where as MT is good with power, Savate is good with speed.
Savate, as I understand it, basically is MT. Except without clinch fighting, and some gay kicks thrown in. You know, cause it’s french.
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Yea some wrestlers are really good. A good wrestler with two years could be tougher than an average wrestler with six years.
Some of them are small and still hell to grapple with.
And then their are wrestlers with four years that you can not even tell the difference.
Savate? The fact that you could even find two frenchmen willing to fight boggles the mind.
and you have to have the right materia equipped.
You also have to be careful, because sometimes you learn a spell that hurts you, so when you cast it, it hurts you.
Is there a nerdtown to put this thread in, Kagan?
btw I get the jokes, so don’t worry I’m a kettle.
[quote=sandbag2;2176382]Karate: My first karate dojo I attended was when I was around 12.
It was called Fred Vallaries Self Defense Studios. It was a real mcdojo with people getting blackbelts in 6 months. Karate was the shit in those days.
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There are good dojos and there are mc-dojos. I’ve been training hard in karate for 2 1/2 yrs. and I’m only go kyu (purple belt). If I bust my ass for another 2 1/2 yrs. I might … might, mind you … make shodan. It’s unfair to judge all of us based on a couple of months in a McDojo. I don’t care what anybody says. I love karate.
TKD: Crap! The instructor was real nice, but I just couldn’t get into the art.
All the kicks where as awkward as possible. Spent allot of time doing form. I fucking hate form, SO manontanus. And you have to remember the Japanese names for each form. I was never a fan of Japanese culture. And I’m not really a fan of much Asian culture either. Lost interest real fast!
I can’t vouch for TKD because I’ve never trained in it. However, I suspect there are good dojangs and there are mc-dojangs. It’s unfair to judge all TKD practitioners based on a couple of months in a McDojang.
Wrestling: The FIRST MA that I actually benifited from. The first art that made me tougher. It was wrestling that I found out trhat the other arts I tried are uneffective in a real situation. The problem is that wrestlers give their back sometimes. Easy to guitine sometimes.
Another blanket statement. I’ve never trained in wrestling but I have trained in BJJ and used to regularly spar against a guy who had a wrestling background. He was a handful! He never gave me his back and, although I knew more Jujitsu techniques than he did (I outranked him) he handled himself really well on the ground. Like I said, he was a handful. Sometimes I guillotined him and sometimes he guillotined me. Most of the time though, he wore me out. I have a high degree of respect for wrestling.
MT: One of the best kickboxing arts. Powerful roundkicks, fighting in the clinch, knees elbows, and some weastern boxing all simulate stand up fighting realisticly.
I don’t know about “fighting realistically” but I do like MT. In fact, I plan to start crosstraining in MT two weeks from now with Jorge Gurgel (UFC, Strikeforce). Although I do like MT very much, I suspect there are good MT gyms and bad MT gyms just like there are good dojos and there are mc-dojos. Everybody thinks that just because all the UFC fighters on TV are trained in MT it means MT is somehow superior to all the other martial arts. That ain’t necessarily so. It is a highly effective art (depending on where you train, of course) for the ring. If I was going to fight in the octagon I would definitely want to be well versed in MT. But, again, the art is only as good as the instructor. There are a lot of posers out there claiming to be expert MT instructors that couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Just sayin’.
BJJ: My favorite. BJJ works wonders. You can take out a guy who has three times as much wrestling as you, or is twice as big.
Who the hell told you that? There’s no such thing as a martial art that “works wonders.” If this were true they wouldn’t have weight classes in the UFC. Not to dis BJJ but it ain’t magic. A 150 lb. BJJ black belt is going to have his hands full against a well trained 250 lb. wrestler.
Do yourself a favor and quit drinking the Kool Aid. Find yourself an art you like, train hard and be happy. If you think MT and BJJ is the shit, good for you. But don’t be surprised if some day some karate guy kicks your ass!
Epic post blackxpress. Completely agree.
Wow… this thread… it’s like all of bullshido condensed plus spelling errors minus line spacing.
manontanus
As a former world champion bad-speller, I salute you. You shall know the tiger by his claws.
manontanus
Uh, pretty sure he was referring to the ancient roman submission technique where you shove your hand up your opponent’s ass. If you look closely you’ll see that the stems for hand and asshole are pretty god damned obvious there.
I actually prefer monotanas - that’s the technique where you shove your hand in a duck then use it to bludgeon your opponent to death.
[quote=Blue Negation;2176473]and you have to have the right materia equipped.
You also have to be careful, because sometimes you learn a spell that hurts you, so when you cast it, it hurts you.[/quote]
LMAO I totally feel u on this statement. I have learned very quickly thast even though I learned some greco adn can duck under to take the back with decent consistency. DO NOT TRY TO SUPLEX someone if they dont want to be thrown and you dont have plenty of practice doing it. I learned several things in wrestling that when I try to apply backfire.
So until I get ALOT better I’m gonna stick to snap downs, arm drags, and leg attacks.
It boggles my mind that nobody mentioned the Savate spandex suits yet. It’s like Muay Thai, except it was originally done with heavy boots (thus the weird kicks) AND they wear silly superhero spandex suits when they fight.
Hey, I get weird feelings from sambo uniforms, too… who looks at a gi/wrestling jacket and thinks “I’ma pair this with some short shorts, ya’ll!”
I’ll worry about what the bottoms look like when someone develops no-pants grappling.
I’ll worry about what the bottoms look like when someone develops no-pants grappling.
The market for that just ain’t the same for men, eh?
Nope.
[quote=sandbag2;2176382]Karate: My first karate dojo I attended was when I was around 12.
It was called Fred Vallaries Self Defense Studios. It was a real mcdojo with people getting blackbelts in 6 months. Karate was the shit in those days.
Karate Kempo: When my dad told me Fred Valaries was a scam, I switched to United Self Defense studios. The only sparring we did was a stick.
I have heard of some good Kempo schools with lots of sparring though
TKD: Crap! The instructor was real nice, but I just couldn’t get into the art.
All the kicks where as awkward as possible. Spent allot of time doing form. I fucking hate form, SO manontanus. And you have to remember the Japanese names for each form. I was never a fan of Japanese culture. And I’m not really a fan of much Asian culture either. Lost interest real fast!
Wrestling: The FIRST MA that I actually benifited from. The first art that made me tougher. It was wrestling that I found out trhat the other arts I tried are uneffective in a real situation. The problem is that wrestlers give their back sometimes. Easy to guitine sometimes.
Aikido: How can you win a fight with NO OFFENSE! The best defense is a good offense. Thus Aikido fails! The first MA where most of the upper belts I met where elitest jerks. Aikido has a few good wrist locks, that’s about it.
Otherwise it’s a sissy art.
MT: One of the best kickboxing arts. Powerful roundkicks, fighting in the clinch, knees elbows, and some weastern boxing all simulate stand up fighting realisticly.
BJJ: My favorite. BJJ works wonders. You can take out a guy who has three times as much wrestling as you, or is twice as big.
The only problem is that there are no strikes. Most BJJ schools have accesss to some time of MT though. The grappler has the advantage over the striker, but it’s much better to train in both.
Savate: It’s good but I like MT a little better. Where as MT is good with power, Savate is good with speed.[/quote]
More about the stick sparring please. How long did you take the art? Did you really hit each other with a real stick? Pads? Are you sure it was sparring and not paddy cake with sticks?