Hi, I searched for a couple of days in this forum for threads on multiple attackers.
And basicaly i found two solutions.
1.Run away.
2.Draw your gun. Gun-do… lol
When I watch liveleak video’s of brawls and hooligans on the footballfield, i noticed something. That the moment someone stops fighting and try to run off, is the moment he is becomming dead meat. Mostly he will get catched on, get tackled, jump kicked from behind so the guy falls, and the party begins.
But as long as he is fighting, people tend to back a little off. I think when you try to run off, you will activate some sort of instinct by your attackers. So running away, could be potential dangerous.
2nd when they have catch you, you dont have any air left to fight.
I noticed something else, when people become passive, go into the fetal position crawl up and hope the best of it. That only angry’s your opponent even more, giving him more guts and agression.
Before i am going to make my final statement i would like to say: I am not a hero, i would be scared, maybe i will stiff op from fear, wet myself start to cry and beg for mercy,… lol i dont know
But would not be the best thing to do, thinking: screw it, lets go for it. Be the meanest agressor and go for it, fight as dirty as you can. Pick the biggest the leader, break his frigging nose with one blow and go to the next.
You probaly are going to the hospital anyway, with fighting you at least have a chance
I would love to hear your comments on this.
edit some grammar
w8 There is a 3rd solution, de escalate. That is of course the best solution. But my post is about if de escalate doesnt work, when 1 of the guys allready tryed to hit you and you see they get more and more “courage” to attack you.
anything you try wil have its advantages and consiquences. runnig away timed right can work. Actually running away while your oponant is ganging up his mates works very well. I agree fighting back does seem to result in taking less damage but you will want to leave the situation some time.
Fetal position is not allways a choice and I think for just taking damage works quite well. Played some rugby and a good fetal position weas life saving.
seriously, try some sentence structure.
On the topic of the OP, yes sometimes you can do enough that a group will leave you alone, but honestly distance control and being aware of your surroundings until you can get away is way more effective than fighting a shit ton of guys off
mikew, I suggest you lurk a bit more before you post in the technique area. They are for technique discussion and not for bringing up possible scenarios.
When faced with any attack scenario, once “flight” is no longer an option, you should adopt the “screw it” mentality. Multi-attacker scenarios not only decrease the “flight” opportunities, but increase the need for “fight” with the “screw it” mentality. However, a wild approach is reckless. It’s important to remember physics and use it to your advantage making your initial move one that takes you out of the center of attention. It is best to try to line your opponents up, one behind the other, using corners, walls or other obstacles to your advantage. Investigation into practical “bunkai” in many traditional kata reveal these concepts of evasion and alignment.
pardon me Jnp, I thought this was the right forum. I see you allready moved it, thank you.
I love multiple person scenarios. The few things I found was:
- Most people become complacent when doing a multiple attack.
- Everybody seems to get in each others way.
- Find the Alpha dog and take them down and things will start to deescalate.
- Don’t get surrounded and keep moving.
- Anything that moves gets hit.
Oh, and don’t grapple unless you’re using the person as a shield.
One of my instructors (karate judo gymnastic wrestling) got attacked by a gang in Texas and having always heard that taking down the alpha works, KO’d the alpha guy and the gang was so impressed that they all jumped him. He ran right into a big hedge and did a leaping dive roll and since they had no idea how to do dive rolls, he got away.
The advantage of age is that I only think that I’ve told this story a couple times already. Hey poops, did you hear about the biker?
I’ve found that the people who are most concerned with defeating multiple attackers are usually the ones least likely to defeat a single attacker.
I did say they’d start to deesculate, I didn’t say it’d end.
I like the story from Vargas’s friend in ALBQ who got harassed by drunk frat asswipes when coming back to his dorm and when one got too agro did a double leg take down and then said he jumped up (guess he’d gone down inadvertently with the frat boy) worried that the others were attacking. But to his surprise they were all backing away freaking out. He looked down and the guy was KO’d and bleeding a bit and he realized that the drunk frat boys hadn’t been practicing break falls and rolls… And had never seen anyone get hurt fighting.
Obligatory: I was in a 7 on 1 fight. We really kicked the shit out of that guy.
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