[quote=Petter;2078469]I recall asking you to provide some evidence that this actually does any good. I notice that you did not deign to reply. Care to do so now?
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Do you really need “evidence” to figure out that self-defense is about controlling yourself, not others?
[quote=kungfu2u;2078473]Do you really need “evidence” to figure out that self-defense is about controlling yourself, not others?[/quote]Now this is just plain silly. Are you suggesting that when some drunken frat-boy thug in an off-campus pub throws a meaty fist in my general direction, the real enemy in this situation isn’t said frat-boy, but myself?
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On another note, what is UP with all the revenge-fantasy-driven ex-bully victims coming out of the woodwork and getting off on the very premise of this show?
“Oh Jesus, oh fuck yeah this show is gonna be fuckin’ awesome! This is gonna be hella tight. Yeah, yeah, that’s right Mayhem, you show that bully! That’s right, you show that goddamn bully! Punish him… punish the fuck out of that bully. Oh yeah, retribution… uggh, uhhhhh, oh yes, oh yes… yeah, it feels so good to finally see these bullies get what’s coming to them! Feels so fuckin’ good! That’s it Mayhem, spray their goddamn faces with hot liquid justice!! Awwwwwwww fuuuuuuuuuuck yeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhh!”
Ok. I have no more patience for your personal brand of stupidity. The Limbaugh approach of repetition = truth doesn’t fly. Feel free to take a look through those links and when you come upon the part that says that martial arts is specifically meant to teach morals values and ethics, which is absolutely retarded in context of why they were developed, feel free to call 911 because you’re hallucinating.
http://www.yourdictionary.com/self-defense
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self%20defense
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self%20defense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_defense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_arts
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/martial%20art
[quote=Kid Miracleman;2078483]Now this is just plain silly. Are you suggesting that when some drunken frat-boy thug in an off-campus pub throws a meaty fist in my general direction, the real enemy in this situation isn’t said frat-boy, but myself?
---------- Post added at 11:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 PM ----------
On another note, what is UP with all the revenge-fantasy-driven ex-bully victims coming out of the woodwork and getting off on the very premise of this show?
“Oh Jesus, oh fuck yeah this show is gonna be fuckin’ awesome! This is gonna be hella tight. Yeah, yeah, that’s right Mayhem, you show that bully! That’s right, you show that goddamn bully! Punish him… punish the fuck out of that bully. Oh yeah, retribution… uggh, uhhhhh, oh yes, oh yes… yeah, it feels so good to finally see these bullies get what’s coming to them! Feels so fuckin’ good! That’s it Mayhem, spray their goddamn faces with hot liquid justice!! Awwwwwwww fuuuuuuuuuuck yeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhh!”
You were a bully, weren’t you.
This…looks…AWESOME!!!
Thanks Zap.
Scripted or not, we all know douchebags like those in the trailer. The $10k offer, in my opinion, seems to add some legitimacy to the whole thing because absent the cash most of these punks (assuming they are real “bullies”) would not step up.
Although, it does nothing to save the kids once the Mayhem Hummer leaves town and the kid has to face the bully that just got KTFO’ed by a pro-fighter on national TV and now has the added fantasy credential of “hey guyz I ultimate fighter so fear mE more!!!..and give me that $10k that you just got for me to get my ass kicked by a pro.”
Still, from a spectator perspective it will be VERY entertaining.
[quote=MrBadGuy;2078671]You were a bully, weren’t you.[/quote]Strangely enough I wasn’t, nor was I a victim of bullying. When I was in high school, nobody bothered me much about anything, and I didn’t bother them. I was just another 17-year-old Willy Loman: liked, but not “well-liked.” Just another face in the crowd.
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Well, now I’m depressed. I’m gonna go wedgie some pencil-necks up in the finance department, see if that cheers me up.
Have you ever been confronted by a motherfucker that is bigger than you, with a knife, willing to cut you up open to get your wallet, and running away is really not an option? I have. What type of self-control do you think I used there?
In fact, let me make the question more generic:
What would you suggest about such a scenario? What kind of self-control would you suggest to establish a efficient self-defense response?
If you were a small, non-aggressive male, what would you do, what would you suggest to do when confronted with a larger, more aggressive male, possibly a sociopath, that is not just interested in establishing a hierarchy, but who is going the distance in pursuing you, no matter where you go, no matter what you do to diffuse the situation (short of going to your knees and fellate him) to physically assault you, to physically touch you and whatever the fuck he wants to do against your will? What would you do when confronted with a stronger, larger sociopath that decided to physically and verbally assault you long waaaay in advance, that he has decided the outcome regardless of what you will say or do?
What sort of self-control would you use? How would you suggest that controlling yourself and not this type of attacker will be the most appropriate course of action in defending my physical integrity and well being?
- If you think this is a very extreme, unlikely scenario, you are not from this planet.
Goddamnit!!! at 6 feet 5 im missing out on loads of blowjobs!!!
At 6’5" you could just work on your flexability and blow yourself…although, that will just keep you from speaking. Unfortunately for us, you’ll still be able to type.
You’re right. We’ve been robbed of a lifetime of forced oral sex by hot, vulnerable, crater-faced Asian nerds. Anyways, I gotta go, I have some facefuckin’ to do.
This thread just got weird,
Why the talk about blowjobs?
Let’s step back a bit.
[quote=kungfu2u;2078435]No, THAT’S fucked up. Self-defense against an emergency situation is one thing, but this is outright instigation and taking the law into their own hands. You’re confusing frontier justice, with CIVIL justice.
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Are you high?
Taking the law into their own hands? THEY’RE OFFERING THE BULLIES A CHANCE TO WIN 10,000$ to go and fight out of their OWN FREE WILL in a ring wearing protective gear! Sure they can be hurt, mostly their ego. Like they don’t know what they’re getting into.
In fact, they WILL do it to keep their twisted sense of self respect that probably made them bullies in the first place.
Really such a sweet idea, one of those things that make me say “How didn’t anyone think of that before?”
[quote=TheMightyMcClaw;2078992]This thread just got weird,
Why the talk about blowjobs?
Let’s step back a bit.[/quote]
Quit trying to turn
every thread into a hai
ku fest. God damn you.
[quote=Kid Miracleman;2078702]Strangely enough I wasn’t, nor was I a victim of bullying. When I was in high school, nobody bothered me much about anything, and I didn’t bother them. I was just another 17-year-old Willy Loman: liked, but not “well-liked.” Just another face in the crowd.
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Well, now I’m depressed. I’m gonna go wedgie some pencil-necks up in the finance department, see if that cheers me up.[/quote]
Dude, you just referenced, “Death of a Salesman”
how the fuck were you NOT bullied?
YouTube - Jason Mayhem Miller fights a 5 year old
lol
edit: i was bullied. because i was always different than most of the other kids (ie. i wasn’t a completely delusional fuckwit). but it never went to fights, because i was also bigger than most of them (grew quickly, i’m not particularly big now though). they’d just make fun, and run away if it was ever about to escalate to a physical level.
i started training because i always loved the idea of asskicking with style and technique since i can remember.
I personally think that a much better idea for the show would be a “the-ultimate-fighter” clone, where you take the victims, have them train for an extended period of time and then face off against their bullies in the cage.
To me, that would work a whole lot better on a number of different levels. First of all, it would be a much more engaging story, a story where the audience can really become attached to the characters and culminate in a real cliff-hanger. Watching pro nhb fighters beat the crap out of nobodies is a boring proposition - all the fights are bound to be one-sided affairs with no real drama. Watching the victim come and face his own fears after months of grueling training would have people at the edge of their seats.
Also, this would be a much better show in terms of the lesson it teaches to the audience. Having a big buff mma fighter step in and fix your problems is exactly the opposite of what I would want to teach my children. Working hard, on the other hand, and finally overcoming your fears, and growing a pair of balls in the process, is a whole other story.
[quote=HAPKO3;2079065]I personally think that a much better idea for the show would be a “the-ultimate-fighter” clone, where you take the victims, have them train for an extended period of time and then face off against their bullies in the cage.
To me, that would work a whole lot better on a number of different levels. First of all, it would be a much more engaging story, a story where the audience can really become attached to the characters and culminate in a real cliff-hanger. Watching pro nhb fighters beat the crap out of nobodies is a boring proposition - all the fights are bound to be one-sided affairs with no real drama. Watching the victim come and face his own fears after months of grueling training would have people at the edge of their seats.
Also, this would be a much better show in terms of the lesson it teaches to the audience. Having a big buff mma fighter step in and fix your problems is exactly the opposite of what I would want to teach my children. Working hard, on the other hand, and finally overcoming your fears, and growing a pair of balls in the process, is a whole other story.[/quote]Well said. Then the bully would also be a lot more likely to take the fight, and the victim, even if he didn’t win, would be learning useful stuff. And if he did win, he’d have long term protection, because the bully could still come back and beat his ass once the MMA guys are gone.
Plus, you’d only be giving the help to the people who were actually willing to work for it, and not just whiny bitches you want other people to solve their problems for them.
I too kind of hope that just ONCE a bully wins, just for the sake of it, and to see what happens.
But even with these flaws, i still like the idea of bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, if only to a certain extent.
I’d also love to see one MMA fighter forget that they’re supposed to be taking it easy on them, and just completely rape one of the kids, and like break their arm or something.
Mayhem’s show looks pretty f’in hilarious. The part of the clip where the bully is up in Mayhem’s face - he doesn’t have any clue how easily Mayhem could have taken him apart.
It certainly is better reality TV than Bimbo’s on a Bus with Brett, or the Bitchelor.
Oh, and kungfu2u, I think I saw you on a reality show blowing donkeys in Tijuana.
I want to see Richard from the 1st season of beauty and the geek inviting Mayhem to beat up Chuck for winning the show.
VS
Oh and Chuck knows Jujutsu if I remember correctly…
Chuck’s not really a bully but I really wanted Richard to win, he’s so hilarious.
Ahhh, Chuck’s a good guy, nevermind!
He knows Jujutsu?
Really?
What do him and Jujutsu do? Are they good friends, or just casual acquaintances?