[quote=kungfu2u;2077489]I doubt it. Bullies are sick people, I’m pretty sure this will just make it worse.
Whatever happened to “defense only?” This guy’s going around looking for fights.[/quote]
Fair point. I suppose the “fight fire with fire” philosophy being employed isn’t exactly in sync with traditional values.
they shouldn’t allow the bullies to wear headgear.
This is a point in favor of TMA, i.e. the values of honor, discipline, and respect for self and others, as well as an overall code of peace through strength; I often worry that MMA and Bullshido goes too far with its avante-garde irreverence for TMA’s good philosophy, as well as its crappy technique. THAT’S what gives MMA a bad name, i.e. the anti-social mentality of fighting everyone and everything.
I see MMA more as a scientific test, but most of the guys on that UFC program look like real head-cases.
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It’s probably mandatory to avoid lawsuits. They probably don’t wanna wear it, bullies typically have delusions of grandeur. It’s fun to see them hit reality.
[quote=kungfu2u;2077514]This is a point in favor of TMA, i.e. the values of honor, discipline, and respect for self and others, as well as an overall code of peace through strength; I often worry that MMA and Bullshido goes too far with its avante-garde irreverence for TMA’s good philosophy, as well as its crappy technique. THAT’S what gives MMA a bad name, i.e. the anti-social mentality of fighting everyone and everything.
I see MMA more as a scientific test, but most of the guys on that UFC program look like real head-cases.
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It’s probably mandatory to avoid lawsuits. They probably don’t wanna wear it, bullies typically have delusions of grandeur. It’s fun to see them hit reality.[/quote]
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Am I the only one that didn’t get into MA because he was bullied?
Well it’s a good reason, don’t you think?
I got in it to hone my bullying skills…
Your dog just e-mailed Mayhem Miller.
You do realise that “those guys on that UFC program” aren’t necessarily representative of the MMA community. There are a lot of “traditional martial artists” (a misnomer, but I’ll leave that be for now) who now train in MMA, and hold dear traditional values.
It’s not your martial art that dictates your values, it’s your own values that dictate how your portray your martial art. Unfortunately, as the sport grows in popularity, and becomes fashionable, it attracts an increasing number of poseurs, who misrepresent MMA.
MMA is not this:
YouTube - Get in my Guard
At first I thought this was going to be some kind of cheesy and shameless low-budget show, but when I saw “Mark Burnett Productions” at the beginning of that trailer, I knew I was in for cheesy and shameless high-budget shenanigans. Mayhem Miller + Burnett = Happy Fun Time, as far as I’m concerned.
I’m looking forward to the first episode.
Well, I was bullied in middle school, but I think the statute of limitations had run out by the time I started MA (39).
I’m still gonna watch the show. This sounds like great television period.
I think bullying is kind of a circular experience. I think the one-sided “Mongo the school bully” guy is rare, as is the total victim, and what happens more often is everyone takes and gives.
[quote=Deadmeat;2077543]You do realise that “those guys on that UFC program” aren’t necessarily representative of the MMA community. There are a lot of “traditional martial artists” (a misnomer, but I’ll leave that be for now) who now train in MMA, and hold dear traditional values.
It’s not your martial art that dictates your values, it’s your own values that dictate how your portray your martial art. [/quote]
And if it’s taught devoid of values, then so it will be portrayed. Americans in general, and MMA in particular, get a bad name from simply looking for advantages without first showing respect, and so they end up furthering the image of “The Ugly American.”
There is a nice saying that goes “You can’t polish a turd.” If someone is going to be a jackass bully, no ammount of traditional values taught via martial arts is going to help correct that problem. Notice the large amount of “TMA”'ers who continually act like richeous idiots whenever their views are challenged.
I respectfully disagree. I don’t think it’s fair to blame someone’s lack of character on their chosen martial art. It’s a personal failing.
Anyway, this is off topic, so I’ll leave that discussion for another time.
On topic: This show has potential. To second an earlier statement it would be cooler if they were able to do some sort of accelerated training to get the bullied to fight for themselves. Its nice to see bullies get bullied. Justice is sweet sometimes.
[quote=Deadmeat;2077590]I respectfully disagree. I don’t think it’s fair to blame someone’s lack of character on their chosen martial art. It’s a personal failing.
Anyway, this is off topic, so I’ll leave that discussion for another time.[/quote]
It’s not off-topic. Again, if the MA isn’t teaching good values, it’s teaching bad ones, encouraging and empowering bullies through silence, and giving the message that violence is ok.
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I agree that it would be better to train the victims. But the best justice, would be in court. It’s tempting to see the bullies get their own medicine, but it’s never for the best.
[quote=kungfu2u;2077599]It’s not off-topic. Again, if the MA isn’t teaching good values, it’s teaching bad ones, encouraging and empowering bullies through silence, and giving the message that violence is ok.
I agree that it would be better to train the victims. But the best justice, would be in court. It’s tempting to see the bullies get their own medicine, but it’s never for the best.[/quote]
Its not the job of martial arts to teach values. Its the job of martial arts to teach proper fighting technique and method. Its when they decide to focus more on “cultivating the person” instead of cultivating the fighter that the martial aspect is lost and you only have art.
As for the courts being the best justice…I haven’t laughed like that since I was a school girl. Justice is about balance. Courts are about laws which rarely ever coincide with balance. True justice will be had the instant the first strike lands on their face and they realize that they fucked up.
Am I detecting a trend? I got picked on in high school as well. Nothing is better than running into former douchebags and being like… I fight in a cage now and teach other people to do it as well. Why yes I remember every time you called me a name or shoved me. Yeah that’s right… Cool. Come by for a free class and try it out =)
Who said I got into martial arts because I got bullied? I was already in martial arts when I was being bullied. I didn’t fight back because my dad told me he’d pull me out if I started fights.