Lookey what came in the mail today!

If you want to borrow it until you get another optic, I have a red dot sight that will mount on the rail (I believe). I can drop it off at your gym or wherever.

Edit: Mounts on standard 5/8’’ dovetail rail.

[quote=KidSpatula;2141532]My rifle was a bit over $2k, so not the cheapest rifle by any means.

I’m planning on installing a Trigger Tamer at some point, which is supposed to reduce the trigger pull by about 1/3rd and make it significantly more pleasant to shoot. I’ll report in after I give it a go.[/quote]
I am very interested to hear the result. I have always thought well of the AUG concept. I hope someday to see it chambered in a heavier cartridge.

This is a problem of familiarity and training. I’d imagine someone only trained with bullpups might say the same in reverse.

This is a problem of your specific rifle not being equipped with a standardized mounting platform, not of the bullpup concept.

Rifle accuracy in a carbine length is a superior design concept. Additionally, the design allows better close quarters maneuverability, faster aiming and reduced weight strain on the arms.

This is a problem with pullpups which use side ejection. Ones with downward or forward ejection can be made fully ambidextrous.

Pffft.

True, but solvable (and has been solved) with redesigned linkage.

It’s actually an issue of ergonomics. Someone would have to drastically redesign and extremely complicate the magazine release of a bullpup rifle to make it as accessible as the release on the AR15 and similar rifles. I can activate the magazine release with the hand holding the rifle by moving my index finger as one mag drops free I can retrieve and insert another relatively smoothly even with my minimal practice at doing so quickly.

On every bullpup I am familiar with you have to reach your left hand across your body to hit the mag release so it’s a much more involved motion to drop the mag, retrieve, and insert another.

With 30 round magazines for civilian self defense and team mates to cover your ass in the military the issue is a relatively small one but it’s definitely not just related to training.

Anyways, I think there’s a lot of merit to the bullpup concept but I can also see plenty of reasons to stick to my ar-15.

[quote=Tom Kagan;2142323]Rifle accuracy in a carbine length is a superior design concept.[/quote]How long is an American M4 vs the British A2 IW ? I’ll tell you, a matter of a couple of inches when the folding stock (version) is extended. Both are very accurate weapons in the hands of a marksman and both are equally caperble in a close quarter environment.

… Additionally, the design allows better close quarters maneuverability, faster aiming and reduced weight strain on the arms.
Again see the above on length as a design argument when used for CQB, it makes little general difference, depending upon what weapon you want to compare of course - In terms of reduced weight and strain, I’m afraid that’s quite a generalism because you get used to what you have to work with. My Primary is considerably heavier than a styer or M4 yet I can shoot quite comfortably standing, kneeling or any other unsupported position. Whilst I agree that reducing weight is a big plus point, it isn’t inherently resulting from the pullpub design.

This is a problem with pullpups which use side ejection.
(Almost 99% of all weapons)
… Ones with downward or forward ejection can be made fully ambidextrous.
Feel free to offer examples because I haven’t seen those in wide circulation within either the military or civilian markets.

(Which wouldn’t make them cheep)

Dave

The FS2000 ejects out the front of the rifle in a big fart of casings.

Very true and like other FN’s I’m sure its well made too !

Which design solved it? This is interesting news!

W00t! Glad to see your toy finally go in! Yep…your best bet for the short term is the inexpensive Magpul flip ups. I probably would’ve went with your rifle instead of the Microtech if the whole “AR15 magazine thing” was common knowledge at the time. I simply jumped at the opportunity to get a flat-topped Steyr AUG for $1500.

As for ejection—my Microtech ejects to the left…I set it up that way. The Microtech is user-configurable for that. I just put an old Aimpont Comp ML2 I had lying around on it and it shoots great. I demand pictures and video! :toothy9:

The FS2000 has been mentioned. The P90/PS90 eject downward so there’s no issue, and the new Kel-Tec RFB ejects forward. Kel-Tec claims to have solved the linkage issue, and the trigger felt pretty good on the one I held this weekend, but I didn’t get a chance to shoot it.

Was that at the Hero gear shoot, Don?

It was, and you two were missed. You really should try to make it next year . . . it’s a great time.
http://thearmedschoolteacher.blogspot.com/2009/06/hero-gear-shoot-photo-roundup.html

Was very disappointed to miss it but had a kickboxing tournament the same weekend :frowning:

I had the chance to play with tavor. I shoot left-handed, and this is a bullpup that can be configured to accommodate lefties. I love the ergonomics, it points naturally, and the trigger pull is smooth. The only reason I am not trading in my AR15 is optics. The tavor’s optic cannot be changed, and I just put an Acog on my AR that cost more than the rifle.
Also, bullpus add sex apeal to whomever is holding them :slight_smile:

That’s a relief. I can use some.

nice, the australian military uses a version of this. wikipedia tells me it’s called the “F88 Austeyr”.

that’s my cousin adam btw.

I want a grenade launcher on my gun :frowning:

The only thing that has kept me from a Steyr Aug is the price, and living in NY. I am sure they would find something wrong with it.

Complexity of construction is one thing.

Also, if the rifle is designed to be fired right handed and your a left handed shooter, your gonna have cases slamming into your cheeks, unless the rifles is a bottom ejector or something

The IMI Galil has a bottle opener on the stock. Good G-d that’d come in handy!