Lloyd Irvin serious badassery: Gunmen break into home, get stripped of weapons.

Or the gun wasn’t cocked and again, 1 bullet < 12 bullets.

It doesn’t sound like the guy went and took the clip out then took a step back and went ‘lolz @ you keke’. Just saying …

As for not getting the whole story, if it’s anything like the Australian Media, then that’s a given.

There’s a saying I’ve heard in my firearms training. “2 is 1, 1 is none.” Nevertheless, 1 can still kill.

I’m not denying that for a second. I’ve never heard that saying before though.

I thought I covered that scenario with the whole “robber was a dumb cunt and Lloyd was very lucky” thing?

I just want to make sure I’ve got this straight, because nobody bit on my earlier post…

Lloyd jumped one of the gunmen while the other one was in possession of a gun and Lloyd’s family? And the first gunman was able to alert the second one?

What does that mean?

Basically it means that a firefight can be so unpredictable and so high stress that you need twice as much (effort, ammo, etc.) as you need in practice. Whereas you may hit that 10 ring on your first shot in practice, you better make it 2 (or 3 or 4 or, what the hell, empty the whole damn magazine!) when it’s for real.

F@&$King A! Love that news! Take out the weapon first and then watch the chickenshit-home-invasion-punks turn to pussies.

I’m sure Vera was rattled being held at gunpoint but seeing his coach take out the fuckhead-well-“I sure picked the right guy:-)”

TheRuss has a good point. Hard to know without being there, so I can only speculate that it was Irwin’s only chance/he had to do something or the dude was an idiot:hammer down, no bullet chambered etc.

Do you wait until they tie your family up and rape and kill them?

Hard call

yeah, absolutely^ Cosidering how badly things could’ve gone, I don’t think he had any choice.

As well, I think there’s only so much anyone can get out of, “I’d do this/you should do that” in such things.

Lloyd and his training had ALOT more to do with this than luck. IMO

Dude took the gun off an armed attacker, and chased him and the other guy from the house saving his family.

NO ARMCHAIR QUARTERBACKING ALLOWED.

No, no, no, no. It’s about redundancy in planning.

It means; <ahem>

“You need to have backups of important stuff.”

It’s a saying which started with sappers, who put two initiators in their charges to ensure that if one failed the other would detonate.

Thank you.

:owneddanc

Basically, lloyd irvin is more bad ass then most of us.

I have told my wife if we are ever in a situation like that I am going after the gun weilder and she should run

There will always be at least two. One will hold you at gunpoint while the other takes your wife into the next room to rape her. Then they’ll rob you, likely beat the shit out of you, then leave.

So - be realistic about how you’d handle something like that, focusing on prevention. What you need to do is create layers of delay which will buy you time to prepare a coherent repsonse. Simply putting a revolver under your pillow and calling yourself safe won’t cut it. That revolver may well wind up under your wife’s chin while some big buck junkie fucks her in the ass.

Think it through. The whole invasion, through the eyes of the intruder. Then you can formulate a layered scheme of security. Think of it in the five “D’s” - delay, deter, deny, detect, distract. These layers are there to slow the intruders down while you oil yourself up, strip naked, and take a few practice swings with your 2x4 with a nail through it - or whatever you want your violent response to be.

I’m not saying he was lucky with successfully applying his training… I do know who Lloyd Irvin is! I’m saying he was lucky because the robber put himself in a situation where he could use his training.

myself, I always wear an explosive vest…

Why? You do sambo! No need for any sort of weapon!

Psychological distraction…