I’ll just start off by saying “Hello from two years ago”.
Not exactly. I trained in a traditional goju ryu school for around eight years. To be more accurate, I was bitching about the non existent standard for romanisation of Japanese. Must have been a bad night.
I’m curious, are you related in any way to that place?
I think that the range of fighting went from short to medium. I trained several years in shotokan, and then some years in shotokai and shito-ryu. JKA Shotokan people used to square of farther, and most of the techniques were long and medium range punches and kicks. Shotokai, and specially shito-ryu, emphasized much more close range application of the same kata, using more of a jujutsu flavor (especially noticiable in the shito-ryu), with a greater emphasis on trips, takedowns and flowing punches (in shito-ryu, the gedan-barai was explained to me as a part of a takedown, instead of a block). The JKA shotokan people used a kind of “cannon style” because their punches were heavier and more long range, and the shito-ryu used a more jujutsu style.
If u do can u recite the poems that denotes the Shaolin generation?
I know the poem,and it is time to show u do.
And since i am ethnic Chinese,i can even type out the Chinese version of it.
And which books u referring? I even read the Shaolin Encyclopedia published in China~~~
Here is the lineage:
Gee Sin Sim (Honan Shaolin Monk)
Hung Hei Goon
For ur info Gee Sin Sim and Hung Hei Goon is related to the so-called Southern Shaolin temple,whose history is quite obscure~~~
And i bet you cant tell btw Cantonese and Mandarin~~~
Luk Ah Choy
Wong Tai
(Wong Kay Ying’s Father)
Wong Kay Ying
(Wong Fei Hung’s Father)
Wong Fei Hung
(Master of Hung Gar Kune)
Lam Sai Wing
(Student of Wong Fei Hung + Hung Gar Kune)
Li Sai Wing
Chong Oi Mun
Ron Yamanaka
U for ur info,the lineage of the Shaolin(Henan) temple is now something like 30+ generation.And yes,u can deduct his generation ‘rank’ from his/her Chinese character of the Buddhist name~~~
liuzg150181 about the kick, you would be suprised where a move like that can surface, it may look useless but sometimes what a move looks like can be completely different from its application… lots of move are hidden in kata!
who have u guys been training with??
Dont think you should judge a book by its cover…
DARK WARRIOR
Go for an eye checkup,i am NOT the one who doubted it,dumbass~~~ :icon_geek ek
Great historical breakdown.
The JKA vs Shotokai divide really comes down to philosophy more than technique. JKA leaned heavily into systemization, competition structure, and scientific refinement of biomechanics, while Shotokai emphasized continuity with Funakoshi’s earlier principles — particularly relaxed power, higher stances, and de-emphasis of sportive kumite.
What’s interesting is that both groups claim alignment with Funakoshi, yet they evolved in response to different pressures: post-war modernization, globalization, and the need for organizational structure.
From a practical standpoint, most modern Shotokan schools today reflect the JKA’s influence — especially in tournament format, instructor certification systems, and international expansion.
At Florida Karate Academy in Vero Beach, we often explain to students that understanding this history helps clarify why different Shotokan dojos can feel so different stylistically while tracing back to the same roots.
At the end of the day, whether one prefers the scientific modernization of JKA or the philosophical purity emphasized by Shotokai, the core remains kihon, kata, and disciplined progression.