No because he isn’t going to fall for that.
Being right isn’t everything.
you know how mei-shu (same shu) translates into english? it basically means art, mei-beauty, shu-skill/art. i don’t think beauty sport would have anything to do with painting or art, i’m sorry, but shu definitely does not mean sport.
wuxia is a fiction/movie genre, i don’t know about strategy, but gung fu is acquired skill, skill in general is usually referred to by saying “ji-shu”(my pinyin might be wrong, i’m from taiwan). Trust me, as someone who speaks and understands mandarin chinese, and another dialect, most of the stuff that you’ve translated, is complete bullshit.
Learn Chinese joshinmaster kkthxbye.
Here’s a start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wushu_(term)
ouch, burn.
time to break out soothing lotion for some of those 3rd degrees.
I love you guys.
Joshinmaster, owned you have been
Oh joy, another idiot on summer vacation. When does school start again?
More importantly, shouldn’t joshinmaster be in summer school right now?
Do the schools for the disabled go year round?:evil4:
I think we’ve broken him.
Not sure, but I think the wheels on his house go 'round and 'round.
Wushu is a collective term in Chinese meaning Martial Arts (Kungfu is a colloquialism meaning skills often referring to Wushu in the West). Traditional Wushu is a traditional Chinese sport, holistic healing as well as an art form, all of which emphasize both internal and external aspects of martial arts, with combat fighting movements as its main contents. It has two main categories: routine exercises and free combat fighting as its forms. Wushu, a time-honored sport in China.
Sanshou - (Contributor: Edmund Tsoi)
Intro:
In Chinese, Sanshou (loose hands) refers to the free application of all the realistic hand-to-hand combat skills of Gongfu. It is divided into three categories:
Sport Sanshou (Chinese Kickboxing), Civilian Sanshou, and Military Sanshou (AKA Qinna Gedou).
Origin: China
History:
After fighting directly with the superior American forces during the Korean War, the Chinese government realized that new scientific R&D is important for its military forces. Army chief Peng Dehuai directed a great military training campaign (Da Be Wu) after the war. Martial arts masters from each of China’s 92 provinces were brought together with medical experts to compare and evaluate their techniques. A new hand-to-hand combat system was developed based on three criteria:
simplicity, directness, and effectiveness against a larger, stronger opponent. This system of fighting was thoroughly tested in training camps throughout China, and in border conflicts with Soviet troops.
The Chinese military published manuals on Sanshou in 1963 and 1972.
Besides military Sanshou, civilian Sanshou continued to be developed by underground martial arts schools and individual martial artists in communist China. Civilian Sanshou warriors sharpened their skills by street championships where they challenged each other. These kinds of challenges were very popular during the cultural revolution (1966-76) and usually ended by being broken up by the police.
In recent years, sport Sanshou has been developed and promoted by the Chinese government. In the early years (1980s), there were no formal championships for Sanshou. Only demonstrations were available on national T.V. Most of the Sanshou participants were military and police men. Therefore, sport Sanshou kept its flavour of military kickboxing and wrestling. Lately, the Chinese government have promoted Sanshou into a nation-wide sport and held formal national and international championships every year.
( Lei Tai is a government sanctioned sport from the people’s republic of china meaning
that the communistic regime did sponsor these events I never said that this didn’t
happen if yourecall what I said early is that there was a contraband put on specific
martial arts not governed by the communistic regime in 1972- even this predates this
time and Kuoshuwas sponsored so yeah they did have full contact tournaments but
any non-sanctioned martial arts by the chinese government was seen as an act of
treason punishable by death or a life sentence which is the reason why many martial
artist from the original (Kuoshu council established in 1924) fled the country to other
parts of Asia.
Which is why Lei Tai and Sanshou in the united states aren't just watered
down but are a new creation Lei Tai hasn’t been around that long this is historical
documented by the chinese coalition of history and martial arts) meaning that in 1963
Any martial arts that did not follow the guide lines of peoples republic of china was
onsidered treason and why most full contact tournaments that utlized traditional
Gongfu where contraband effective 1972) .
So from that day on chinese government proclaimed Wushu as
chinese martial sports not art which is how it’s still promoted today hate to burst your
bubble but facts are facts Wu-shu is a collective term not necessarily meaning chinese
martial arts directly but collective meaning as a whole in the realm of sports not actual
martial combat which is a difference and is called WudaoShenShou)
Description:
The Sanshou as practiced by the Chinese military is based on the Chinese Art of War, physics, anatomy, bio-mechanics, and human physiology. It is a complete system of realistic unarmed combat covering the skills of striking, grappling, wrestling, groundfighting, and weapon defenses taken from various Chinese and foreign martial arts and hand-to-hand combat styles. It focuses on applying the principles of combat rather than on techniques. The various divisions of the military and police force have slight differences in technique, but they all employ the same principles.
Because of the increase of violent crimes in China, civilian Sanshou was created by the Chinese government so that Chinese civilians can learn self defense skills. It is also a complete system of striking and grappling, but without the lethal techniques that are required in the military. Many “underground” martial artists also developed Sanshou fighting skills.
The sport of Sanshou is rising in popularity all over the world. It is a kickboxing style that is fought on a platform called a “Lei Tai”. Fighters wear boxing gloves, headgear, and body protectors. It is
full contact kicking and punching with throws and sweeps allowed. Knees, elbows, headbutts, joint manipulation and chokes are not allowed, but fighters can be thrown off the platform.
Training:
Military and civilian Sanshou training involves many punching, kicking, grappling, wrestling, groundfighting, and weapon defense drills with a partner. Contact sparring with protective gear is also emphasized. This is where the different skills are blended together into one fluid art. There are no forms or formal stances, and no qigong exercises.
Sport Sanshou training is similar to kickboxing training, except that throws and sweeps are also drilled extensively. Physical conditioning is also important in sport full-contact fighting.
In Toronto Canada, Sanshou instruction is available through Chinese Self-Defense Studies, the first and only organization outside of China that teaches Military Sanshou.
Sub-styles:
Military Sanshou (AKA Qinna Gedou)
Civilian Sanshou
Sport Sanshou (Chinese Kickboxing)
In 1986, Dr. Pai was in charge of the United States Kuoshu Federation (U.S.K.F.). In June of that year he sponsored his first Kuoshu tournament in Florida. At that time, we spoke and discovered we both shared the same idea of promoting Kuoshu, including that event should be held in a first class facility. In 1987 he sponsored his second tournament, but it did not get enough support from the Chinese Martial Arts community.
The purpose of the United States Chinese Kuoshu Federation (U.S.C.K.F.) is to promote friendship, unity, physical and mental fitness, harmony, ethics, and peace through the principles of Chinese Martial Arts. Each year the U.S.C.K.F. sponsors several national or international tournaments and seminars designed to help achieve these benefits. The International Chinese Kuoshu Federation ideals are the same, but we help to bring people together on an even more global level.
have a nice day 
good luck on your training and research.
Could I be wrong but could different areas in china have different dialects and also different translations could differ slightly could possibly you both be right. The bible is translated from another language and different wordsare used for the same meaning depending an which version you are reading.
The first person to find a dialect of chinese in which these words mean what Joshin thinks they do will win a varrot.
is it retardarin? rejectonese?:new_olymp:copdance:
Joshinmasterbater, you have been owned
:XXbirdman
I love this forum.
looks for errant’s +varrot box
My limited understanding of it, is that the dialect affects pronounciation more than the characters or their meanings themselves…I could be wrong, but I’m not listening to
joshinmaster, It’s apparent Errant knows his shit.
well, I’m listening to joshinmaster… I need a good laugh, and he delivers.
Dear Mr. Errant108,
I’m confused, I did Gung-Fu, I heard MANY MANY words in Cantonese(sp?) tossed about by my Sifu, but I would never think to argue the meaning of them. Does that make me a bad person?
Does the fact that I just don’t care how one spells Gong Sau or draws the characters their in for the different dialects of China make me a bad martial artist?
Does the fact that I can draw no correlation between being able to count to ten in Cantonese(sp?) (a testing requirement in my old school) and kicking someones ass make me a bad martial artist?
Please Mr. Errant108 Help Me!
-Concerned Ex. Chunner