I’m a Japanese Jiu Jitsu n00b. How can I trace the origin of all the different JJJ schools nowadays? How do I know they are legit?
Does anyone have links or info on the legitimate origins of JJJ and which schools out there are actually descendants (and not pretenders) of the original styles?
Thanks.
SK.
If you can find a translation, the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten is the be-all end-all of Japanese koryu arts authority.
Every extant koryu can trace its lineage right back to its founder, and probably show you their additions to the makimono and denshou.
Bugei Ryuha Daijiten is a good source to have but you also need to be able to read japanese. And it hard getting a copy of it. I recommend CLASSICAL FIGHTING ARTS OF JAPAN by Serge Mol for a good english source and the furyu.com site.
Could you dudes do me a favor please?
find the lineage or a site with the lineage of “ketto ryu jiu jitsu” cause thats what my system came from, i think its like an mma version of it, not sure tho.
the only information I can find on the Ketto ryu is a website put out by the group. Furthermore, I’m not sure Ketto is even Japanese.
Maybe you mean Kotto ??
Anyways, lineage is irrelevant, step on the mat, THERE is were the proof is.
I’m not sure Ketto is even Japanese.
Ketto is not anything I could find however Kettou has 3 meanings 1.blood 2.blood sugar 3.duel all depending on the Kanji.
Arahoushi, Asia
Thanks for the tips. I’ll start the process of searching. That said, if you (or anyone) have info on this style:
Kitsune Ryu Jiu-Jitsu
I’d apprecaite it.
Thanks again.
SK
Fox jujutsu is a modern jujutsu I think people who create their own styles need better names.
Mikkyou,
Ah. I suspected that it was a modern style.
That said, do you have any evidence/sites to support your claim?
Thanks.
SK.
do a search function its been talked about on e-budo
Hah! Blood sugar. That’s gold. It’s the perfect ryu for hypoglycemic samurai!
No, but just because something is modern doesn’t make it bad, so long as they’re not claiming a fake history and advertise that it’s the instructor’s interpretation. You might still ask him what types of jujutsu he’s trained in, whether he’s had instruction in a legit koryu or something like BJJ, or whether he just saw a UFC on TV and said “I want to create a grappling art and call it jujutsu!”
Like the Bat said, the proof is on the mat, since most of us don’t use these on the battlefield nowadays.
I only believe in what historians say not lineages in a book written from one culture to another as it will be biased…Most historians believe that the founder of jujitsu Shinna Sabro is the same person by the name of Silla Samrang, who like Mas Oyama was a Korean Imigrant that came to Japan. Why would he come from Japan. My own theory is very much like how sons of aristocrats from places like England came to the new world. Since SIlla is a a well known Korean Dynasty he probably was part of that lineage, but he probably was on the very end of the family lineage, which meant he wasn’t going to inherit much, thus decided to leave Korea. This seems to be the thinking of most historians.
My line4ge is AMerican Jujitsu! BWahahaha!
The ancient weapons of broken beer bottle, barstool, tire iron, baseball bat, and pool cue are taught as part of our curriculum. We also cover groundfighting (getting six of your friends to stomp a guy), submissions (indian sunburns, wedgies, wet willies), and takedowns (hit 'em with a camaro).
We are undefeated in t3h str33t!
Erm, sorry about that. Couldn’t hold it in…