is bjj judo without throws because somehow look at the resemblences, they both have armlocks and chokes but bjj has like two leg attacks, so is bjj judo without the throws if so judo can be better if they can throw their oppents in mma fights
Moved to a better forum for this. The topic has come up several times before. BJJ and Judo are two primarily sport-based forms derrived from Japanese Jujitsu.
That was awesome. Too bad you can’t do any of that.
I actually really like the ankle pick he uses in the opening salvo of throws and use it a lot. Forward throws I’m not as good at, but I am beyond reproach from the likes of you.
I thought BJJ was Kosen Judo. That clip makes me want to buy the new Zatoichi movie.
Jacare is a Judo BB BTW.
So are Royler Gracie and my own Professor (to name only a couple). It doesn’t change the fact that this thread is dumb and the video saved it.
Jacare’s dedication to the art is incredible. All this guy does is train. That kind of dedication is extremely rare, not many have the fortitude to work that hard.
Oh, and the troll gets a 1.5, for not buying Mastering JuJitsu.
*** Is BJJ Judo without throws?
Short answer, no.
Long answer: http://www.bestjudo.com/article6.shtml
*** So Judo can be better cuz they can throw their opponents in mma fights? Short answer, not necessarily.
Long answer: Take two hypothetical fighters in the same weight class. Fighter A has super-experience in Boxing and so-so experience in BJJ. Fighter B has so-so experience in Judo and… I dunno… again, Boxing (I’m pulling stuff out of my ass, so bear with me.) Who do you think has a better chance? Now reverse the experience level from Fighter A to B and viceversa. Who do you think would have the better chance now? And even then, it’s all speculation.
In summary, it depends on the fighter.
Dumb thread, btw. :dead:
Non of your BJJ can defeat my JUDO!!! :new_vampv
Those takedowns were freaking sweet! I never really liked the way Royce took people down in the first UFCs, and I haven’t liked the takedowns in most MMA stuff (it oftentimes seems acidental, more like just waiting to get in a good position on the ground instead).
But howcome we don’t see those little foot-grabs and hooks/throws in MMA? Does it open you up for being hit too much?
I watched the part that started at 2:25 like 10 times. THAT is the most fucking rad thing I’ve ever seen in one of those tournaments. Fucking rad.
Dagon Akujin
I can’t believe you just said that. Rad? Rad?! Go study some more Wing Chun.
This is kind of amusing considering that I was taught how to set up and execute uchimata during a class at Gracie Barra in Rio de Janeiro.
The throws are there. They’re just emphasised far less than groundwork is
I can’t believe you just said that. Rad? Rad?! Go study some more Wing Chun.
Says the guy stuck in a cheesy 80s movie.
Worst thread EVAR!
Thats because at that particular time Royce’s takedowns were absolutely atrocious- he did everything wrong that you could possibly think of when he went for double legs. Thing with Royce though is that he didnt mind too much being on his back, so he grab hold of you and just never let go until you fell to the ground-whether he landed on bottom or on top didnt phase him.
It depends on which fighter you’re watching. Most Jiu Jitsu fighters are experts when the fight his the ground- less are experts at taking the fight to the ground. If you knew the mechanics behind the move and were able to watch a good wrestler at work (Matt Hughes for example) you’d see that the takedowns they get are quite impressive.
Those little foot grabs are called ankle picks. If you rewatch the video, you’ll notice that Jacare often gets then when his opponent is bent over at the waist- thats the technique behind the move- when your opponent is bent over at the waist (at almost a 90 degree angle) you can give him a little push to load the weight on his heels. This prevents him from sprawling and as your reach down for the ankle you bring the head with you (kinda like how a pair of scissors works).
In MMA, people dont bend over llike that- simply because unless you’re in a tight clinch, most fighters of today are quite skilled at clinch fighting with knees, elbows, and tight punches.
As far as the hooks and throws, they’re easier to pull of while you and your opponent are wearing a gi. There are plenty of fighters who utilize Judo in their MMA matches (Parisian, Fedor, Kharitoniv) and that number is growing.