Hapkido Historic Link to Aikijujitsu?

http://www.ustkd.com/choiyong.htm

This is the story I’ve constantly been told and required to expouse during belt tests. There are some minor historical differences others may claim, but this is usually the standard adopted by most HKD governing bodies.

Whilst the historical connection is much harder to prove then some may think, as there are no records at all of Choi learning Daito Ryu(and the records were kept, and are exyensive) directly from Takeda, it is very obvious that the technical basis of Hapkido is Daito Ryu. There are a lot of similarities in the arts. Hapkido has been throughly “Koreanized” when you compare it to Daito Ryu, however.

Still, there are more similarities between Daito Ryu, aikido and Hapkido then there are differences.

How many ways are ther to lock the wrist? the elbow?
Similarties between grappling arts are just common sense.
The similarties between Hapkido and Daito ryu Aikijutsu are just that, similarites.
Its irrelvant WHERE the creator of Hapkido learnt it, just as it is irrelevant where the creator of the Daito ryu learnt his shit.
Fact is, most, if not all, locks look and work the same, regardless of the style.

I think one major thing that the Korean Hapkido protagonists conveniently forget to think of though is that the Japanese, are even now so racially proud that it can border on racism often.

That’s now, imagine how it would have been some time ago when nationalism and cultural superiority mindset would have been even higher. I highly, highly doubt that Daito-Ryu’s Soke would have ever “adopted” a Korean…as he would have been “less than Japanese” in nationality.

A servant, likely…an “adopted son”…very doubtful.

Besides, as John said…Hapkido has been very “koreanized” from whereever it’s roots come from.
All Hapkido is anymore is shoddy, improper joint locks and TKD-like kicks. I’ve seen very good Hapkido, and I’ve seen very very very BAD Hapkido too…sadly, the latter of the two is certainly more prominent in the Hapkido realm.

All I do know is, even the greater skilled Hapkido practitioners I’ve seen have left a lot to be desired in my eyes…it’s not a very thourough or comprehensive art…lots of flash and wasted motion, and too much emphasis on pain-causing moves over balance breaking.

There’s a Hapkido instructor that comes up to train with us on occasion…and his joint locks are incredibly easy to beat or escape from, as all they do is cover minimal distance at a fast speed…instead of really moving my body and unbalancing me…if you’re leaving the recipient of a joint lock completely stable and structured…you’re not doing it right.

just my 2 cents.

Originally posted by ronin69
How many ways are ther to lock the wrist? the elbow?
Similarties between grappling arts are just common sense.
The similarties between Hapkido and Daito ryu Aikijutsu are just that, similarites.
Its irrelvant WHERE the creator of Hapkido learnt it, just as it is irrelevant where the creator of the Daito ryu learnt his shit.
Fact is, most, if not all, locks look and work the same, regardless of the style.

Well,at least the HKD does not claim that koreans taught japanese the art first then it came back to korea~~~

You heard of that claim too!:mad: :smiley:

Originally posted by liuzg150181
Well,at least the HKD does not claim that koreans taught japanese the art first then it came back to korea~~~

This is because the koreans still haven’t found two statues dated 3000 BC grabbing their wrists, so they have to trace HKD lineage to a known old Martial Art.