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Consider that across the forums there are multiple warnings to members to conceal their identity. For KFers, anonymity isn’t a choice but a necessity — they know what they’re doing is probably illegal, and that their anonymity insulates them from any consequences. They know their “entertainment” harms vulnerable people, which is why some of them felt bad when that one target hanged herself. But, most important, they know that if their anonymity were compromised, their own community might eat them alive.

http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/07/kiwi-farms-the-webs-biggest-community-of-stalkers.html

Wow, that is intense. Shame it isn’t martial arts related or maybe we would give it its own thread.

I’m part of the community, my dude. It’s not a royal we.

If someone objects to the facts I’m providing here about Ron, I’d like to know what and why. Until you came along, people seemed pretty happy with what I was providing. Maybe it’s you who should stop pretending to run things here.

I’ll let people with actual brains decide whether my content is appropriate or not. You do not qualify.

[QUOTE=Michael Tzadok;2983501]http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/07/kiwi-farms-the-webs-biggest-community-of-stalkers.html

Wow, that is intense. Shame it isn’t martial arts related or maybe we would give it its own thread.[/QUOTE]
For what? We deliver. Which is more than you guys can say in regard to Ron content.

[QUOTE=AprilRains;2983502]I’m part of the community, my dude. It’s not a royal we.

If someone objects to the facts I’m providing here about Ron, I’d like to know what and why. Until you came along, people seemed pretty happy with what I was providing. Maybe it’s you who should stop pretending to run things here.

I’ll let people with actual brains decide whether my content is appropriate or not. You do not qualify.[/QUOTE]

I’m just trying to follow the rules of MABS, which are pretty clear when it comes to doxxing people, crazy or not. They don’t support that shit here, at least I know that. Now that this guy is in the system for good, continual obsession with him seems misguided. Seems more like “obsessive compulsion” than “weaponized autism”, to me.

Doxxing Ron Collins would be illegal, so is targeting him for any kind of retaliation based on his record. I know that because I read this thread and learned that. So clearly associating with Kiwi Farms on anything related to Ron Collins is simply a bad idea.

Again, glad to help you avoid trouble. Don’t mention it.

[QUOTE=AprilRains;2983503]For what? We deliver. Which is more than you guys can say in regard to Ron content.[/QUOTE]

What does there need to be more Ron content for? The question was whether or not he was legit. That was answered several times over, and most decisively with his challenge fight. I might also add that pretty much all of the content you have accrued has simply been robbed from other forums without attribution.

Any sentence that begins with “I’m just” should probably end with the speaker being killed with a wrecking ball.

If you can show me where I’ve doxed Ron Collins on this forum, let’s see it. The Farms doesn’t target people for retaliation, as you’ve already been told. (But it’s okay. Even some quite good atom scientists were slow at first!)

Stop speaking in airy fairy bullshit. Either identify something I’ve exposed about Ron in this thread that violates a principle held dear here, or give it a rest. Be specific. Otherwise you sound like either a closeted Ron defender or a forum drama queen.

[QUOTE=Michael Tzadok;2983505]What does there need to be more Ron content for? The question was whether or not he was legit. That was answered several times over, and most decisively with his challenge fight. I might also add that pretty much all of the content you have accrued has simply been robbed from other forums without attribution.[/QUOTE]

Show me the forum those court records were posted on.

I didn’t get much content from here. The screenshots especially were someone else’s work. Nice try though.

[QUOTE=AprilRains;2983506]Any sentence that begins with “I’m just” should probably end with the speaker being killed with a wrecking ball.

If you can show me where I’ve doxed Ron Collins on this forum, let’s see it. The Farms doesn’t target people for retaliation, as you’ve already been told. (But it’s okay. Even some quite good atom scientists were slow at first!)

Stop speaking in airy fairy bullshit. Either identify something I’ve exposed about Ron in this thread that violates a principle held dear here, or give it a rest. Be specific. Otherwise you sound like either a closeted Ron defender or a forum drama queen.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I had assumed this post of yours meant you are an autistic savant on the attack who is willing to help dox people. Since that’s illegal, and Kiwi Farms has a notorious reputation for being a forum of stalkers, my point remains the same, I would caution about trying to recruit doxers/shamers from Bullshido.net like you are, it’s likely to put them on the wrong side of decency and probably the law, too.

[QUOTE=AprilRains;2983486]
We are weaponized autism, and on that we surely deliver. I don’t think any of us claim to be ninjas. If you find one, mock the silly SOB. Dox his ass. We might even help.[/QUOTE]

Kiwi Forums doesn’t exist to out frauds or fakes according to the site itself, it’s for mocking and exposing the personal lives of people who act silly online or have mental issues. So it really doesn’t scream public or consumer advocacy to me the way Bullshido.net does.

Again, just being honest and helpful because it’s MABS and you are not really progressing an investigation at this point as much as playing with yourself and pimping a troll forum based on some bullshit claim it has more traffic than Bullshido. Nice try, though.

Just throwing my own $0.02 in, here - AprilRains is one of “the good guys.” This is not an official BS opinion, but (s)he is a known entity to some of us, and is generally interested in promoting Truth, Justice, and The American Way.

I don’t see posting links to KF as an attempt to promote that site. AR is sharing information, here, which is relevant (and increasing the SEO on Ron Collins by doing so).

[QUOTE=submessenger;2983622]Just throwing my own $0.02 in, here - AprilRains is one of “the good guys.” This is not an official BS opinion, but (s)he is a known entity to some of us, and is generally interested in promoting Truth, Justice, and The American Way.

I don’t see posting links to KF as an attempt to promote that site. AR is sharing information, here, which is relevant (and increasing the SEO on Ron Collins by doing so).[/QUOTE]

Fine . … but i am still withholding the bbq invite for now.

Ron needs to be in a home for crazy pedophiles imo. Hes a danger to society and children. I agree about raising the SEO on Ron.

[QUOTE=submessenger;2983622]Just throwing my own $0.02 in, here - AprilRains is one of “the good guys.” This is not an official BS opinion, but (s)he is a known entity to some of us, and is generally interested in promoting Truth, Justice, and The American Way.

I don’t see posting links to KF as an attempt to promote that site. AR is sharing information, here, which is relevant (and increasing the SEO on Ron Collins by doing so).[/QUOTE]

Sorry, vouching someone as “good” and having good intentions doesn’t cut it for me. AFAIK, once upon a time, there was a good guy here, helping around on all the major investigations by fucking around with the FOIA. He had good intentions to expose fakery as well. It was a big clusterfuck when he was outed.

Better to base it on their actions. In this case, outside link sharing is frowned upon here; that’s bad, end of story. Better halt it.

[QUOTE=Raycetpfl;2983626]Fine . … but i am still withholding the bbq invite for now.

Ron needs to be in a home for crazy pedophiles imo. Hes a danger to society and children. I agree about raising the SEO on Ron.[/QUOTE]

Amazing. You guys can afford to have a home for crazy pedophiles… tax money well spent…

[QUOTE=baby_cart;2983647]Sorry, vouching someone as “good” and having good intentions doesn’t cut it for me. AFAIK, once upon a time, there was a good guy here, helping around on all the major investigations by fucking around with the FOIA. He had good intentions to expose fakery as well. It was a big clusterfuck when he was outed.

Better to base it on their actions. In this case, outside link sharing is frowned upon here; that’s bad, end of story. Better halt it.

Amazing. You guys can afford to have a home for crazy pedophiles… tax money well spent…[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you kinda missed the point, there. I’m saying I don’t believe that AR is going for free advertising, and posts coming from the AR account aren’t qualifying as ban-worthy by my estimation (which is kinda important, when it comes down to handing out bans). Comparing to Faunce is apples to alligators, by the way, in more ways than one.

How many dozens of threads do we have talking about UG or MAP? KF is just another forum, which enjoys some crossover with our membership.

I certainly did not intend to advertise KF. I was just poking the bear. I understand that advertising without an advertiser account is against the rules, and I won’t do it again.

I do not think there is a rule against linking to external sites. If there is such a rule, I hope someone points me to it or a Moderator tells me. Kind of getting sick of random people laying down unwritten laws.

I don’t know what the hell happened in the past with whatever boogeyman. I don’t care either. If what I post is against a rule, I’ll honor it. If it’s not, stop making shit up.

I gotta say, though…tfw your own database gets bored with your forum and vomits.

[QUOTE=AprilRains;2983711]I do not think there is a rule against linking to external sites. If there is such a rule, I hope someone points me to it[/QUOTE]

Me, too.

[QUOTE=submessenger;2983622]Just throwing my own $0.02 in, here - AprilRains is one of “the good guys.” This is not an official BS opinion, but (s)he is a known entity to some of us, and is generally interested in promoting Truth, Justice, and The American Way.

I don’t see posting links to KF as an attempt to promote that site. AR is sharing information, here, which is relevant (and increasing the SEO on Ron Collins by doing so).[/QUOTE]

And there is the opinion I have been waiting for before I took any action besides warnings.
Thank you Sub. I was operating on the information and guidelines I have been giving about promoting businesses.

[QUOTE=AprilRains;2983711]
I do not think there is a rule against linking to external sites. If there is such a rule, I hope someone points me to it or a Moderator tells me. Kind of getting sick of random people laying down unwritten laws.
[/QUOTE]

AFAIK, you post the link then block quote the relevant portion. IIRC, I learned of this when Sam Browning told me to back when I was a noob here. Many of the old investigations here do so as well. Were the rules changed when I wasn’t looking?

[QUOTE=submessenger;2983671]Yeah, you kinda missed the point, there. I’m saying I don’t believe that AR is going for free advertising, and posts coming from the AR account aren’t qualifying as ban-worthy by my estimation (which is kinda important, when it comes down to handing out bans). Comparing to Faunce is apples to alligators, by the way, in more ways than one.

How many dozens of threads do we have talking about UG or MAP? KF is just another forum, which enjoys some crossover with our membership.[/QUOTE]

Stormfront is also just another forum, and it enjoys a lot of crossover with Kiwi Farms. I don’t begrudge AprilRains, I know he’s a regular, but I don’t know motivation.

However, Kiwi Farms very is different than MAP and UG. Those sites aren’t trolling Bullshido for content, or filled with people avoiding public scrutiny. The site owner of KF and his whole family was attacked by the KF membership. That would be like all you Bullshido moderators and fans deciding to create an online harassment campaign against Phrost and his mother.

When you come to MABS and claim your forum is better (by traffic, by LOL factor, whatever), troll mods and members trying to stick the discussion to Ron Collins (and not “What Kiwi Farms is saying about Ron Collins!”)…I thought there was a rule about that. Trolling mods, trolling members in MABS…for what again? Because I pointed out that Kiwi Farms has a very seedy reputation for cyber stalking? Well…it does. KF makes BS look like CSPAN.

Hopefully, the openly racist and openly Neo Nazi hacker trolls for hire to do criminal mischief at Kiiwi Farms aren’t part of the Bullshido membership. That would be so unfortunate for everyone.

To keep this post on topic and informative, I’d like to ask AprilRains an honest question: is your intention to make sure Ron Collins’ thread goes beyond public information available? Is the idea that Kiwi Farms will hunt this guy’s every move and word forever, because he’s mentally ill and therefore funny? The reason I ask is simple: Bullshido exposed Ron almost 13 years ago solely because he claimed to be a ninja with Special Operations experience. But in 13 years here no one ever harassed, doxed, or assaulted Ron because Bullshido has clear Rules of Engagement. So I’m trying to rectify how Kiwi Farms is “just observers” when they’re not according to the site itself, they’re quite actively engaged. Bullshido seems to deserve the “observers” mantle, above board and definitely without any of Kiwi Farms negative publicity.

In other words, are you trying to change the spirit of Kiwi Farms for the better? If so, I salute you but…then why all the other crap about autism and web traffic? MABS is just the facts, “we” don’t care about your other, lesser forums.

[QUOTE=baby_cart;2983747]AFAIK, you post the link then block quote the relevant portion. IIRC, I learned of this when Sam Browning told me to back when I was a noob here. Many of the old investigations here do so as well. Were the rules changed when I wasn’t looking?[/QUOTE]

I agree, the linkage was quite promotional. “The Forum lesser forums want to be” was one of April’s textual links. So what April was doing is linking to the same thread again and again, using different headlines. It’s colorful and creative, but it’s still spamming the same KF link over and over.

[QUOTE=baby_cart;2983747]AFAIK, you post the link then block quote the relevant portion. IIRC, I learned of this when Sam Browning told me to back when I was a noob here. Many of the old investigations here do so as well. Were the rules changed when I wasn’t looking?[/QUOTE]

How is that not posting a link to an external site?

[QUOTE=MrBeaj;2983749]I agree, the linkage was quite promotional. “The Forum lesser forums want to be” was one of April’s textual links. So what April was doing is linking to the same thread again and again, using different headlines. It’s colorful and creative, but it’s still spamming the same KF link over and over.[/QUOTE]

What’s really cool is the people coming here from KF to troll AR. Seems like we’re getting the better end of the deal.