Dr. Gyi and Enablers

I have been on about this subject for going on two years now, because certain people who are viewed as untouchables in the Martial Arts Community are associated to him the general public is to this day not aware of the fraud that has been perpetrated on them by this man by playing the hero and taking their money since the Vietnam War Era. He is single biggest liar in the history of American Martial Arts, that is Dr. Gyi

Why does his name still come up? Because he is out there making money again! Here is just some of the latest points of interest mixed in with some old news.

[B]Monday, October 29, 2007

Dr. Gyi[/B]

                    I had the opportunity to meet and talk with Dr. Myaung Gyi, courtesy of Joe Palanzo when he had be teach at his recent camp.

“Doc Gyi”, as they call him, is the REAL DEAL.
I was privileged to sit and talk with him privately a few times during the event. He is a PhD in psycholinguistics and has an interesting background beypnd the fact he is fluent in nine languages. He is widely known as a grandmaster of Bando, a Burmese art. One portion of it looks like Muay Thai, but like many arts, there is way more to it.I had seen bando back when I was a brown belt in Chicago and thought it was pretty exotic.
Dr. Gyi had been the chief instructor for the United States Karate Association (USKA) for 15 years. I remember the USKA from my days as a new black belt and it was one of the biggest karate associations in America. Odd that a bando man would hold that position? I found he had trained with Gogen Yamaguchi, “The Cat”, a famous Goju-Ryu master. Makes sense to me. Gyi was the boxing coach for a university in Ohio for years, and he worked with the US military when he was young.
We spoke of other things and I’ll pass that on here soon in a second article. I was impressed with the Doctor and I’m looking forward to meeting him again.

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I’ve been training in martial arts since 1967 and earned my black belt in kenpo on June 2, 1975. A year later I opened my first studio in Palos Hills, IL. I have published five books on Kenpo and am a traveling instructor, doing seminars all over the US and overseas. I am available for kenpo seminars in your area.

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November 13 9:00am-12:00pm KA BAR
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Bando Grand Master Dr. U Maung Gyi (Gurka Name, Manbahadur Rai) born in Northern Burma. Dr. Gyi has been in martial arts for over 55 years. He is noted for his systematic teaching style and graceful skills in weapons. Dr. Gyi will instruct us in the use of the KA BAR (Dagger) and the Kukri (Short Sword). Dr. Gyi has trained and fought numerous battles with both of these weapons in combat.
Kukri and Dagger training is an integral part of the Bando System introduced to this country by Grand Master Dr. Gyi. We are pleased he has agreed to personally instruct us in both of these disciplines.
Live Blade Training Seminar will cover: KA BAR, KUKRI / GURKHA - cutting patterns and actual cutting drills. Must have approved KA BAR and Kukri to participate.

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                                                          [B]The seminar was great! Dr. Gyi taught us the Dhot system he taught the Dog Brothers.[/B] Turn out was solid and we went out for food afterwards. We are looking forward to his return on September 15, 2007!
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   [SIZE=2][B]WMAA          Spring Camp (2003)--Review. [/B] [/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]I had a wonderful          time at the WMAA Spring Camp. Thanks to Tim Hartman and Janice Stranc          for another great event![/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]I arrived Wednesday          evening and spent some time with Mr. Hartman. On Thursday afternoon we          had a chance to bang sticks with some of his local students. That evening          there was a special meeting for senior students during which he made sure          that everyone was on the same page with respect to certain techniques.          We listened and practiced and discussed. Afterwards, it was pizza and          wings![/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]Friday afternoon came          and the camp opened. After a brief orientation, the highlight of which          was public display of the portrait of Prof. Presas by Ed Parker, Jr. (and          the fact that once again there would be complimentary soda/juices/bottled          water for participants all weekend long!), Mr. Dawdy taught Anyo Anim          and Mr. Dulin taught applications from it. I picked up a teaching trick          from Mr. Dawdy and a pressure point from Mr. Dulin (with help from his          student Tony, whose last name escapes me). Next, I taught disarms 1-5          including brief discussion of L-on-R variations. (Thanks to Mr. Parsons          and Mr. Anderson for showing their versions of #3 and #5, respectively!)          Next Dan Carr taught a session that focused on the distinction between          a lock (multiple joint involvement or multiple angles of compression resulting          in severely limited or very difficult movement) vs. a control (temporary          control of a person but not immobilization). Though he drew a very careful          distinction here--more so than I am able to communicate from memory--this          was no academic session. Many specific examples were worked.[/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]After dinner--many          of us went to a ribs place, Tony Rome's--Mr. Hartman gave a palis-palis          session that I regrettably missed the first half of due to administrative          matters (as chair of the WMAA Advisory Board). Next Mr. Jornales gave          a session that included double stick techniques and his 'four corners'          drill. Many people commented that they would be incorporating that drill          into their own training! [SIZE=3][B]Next Dr. Gyi gave a session on Bando knife work,          including some from the ground. Everyone always enjoys Dr. Gyi's sessions--his          stories, his insight, his perspectives, and his respect. This man addressed          the students as 'sir' in many cases! He is a treasure.[/B][/SIZE][/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]Afterwards many of          us went to Applebee's for food, drinks, and conversation. Grandmasters          Gyi and Jornales joined us.[/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]Saturday morning was          the black belt test. I chaired the board, assisted by Mr. Carr, Jaye Spiro,          and Mr. Parsons. Many camp participants came to watch the test.[/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]After the test, Jack          Latorre taught Pekiti Tersia knife and stick techniques. I finally had          a chance to really see how the reverse grip with the knife held with the          blade facing the forearm works. Mr. Latorre gave a fascinating session          and was very approachable. Next Dan Carr continued his Locks and Controls          session. I got to work with Cebu West who very successfully locked me          in one case--ouch! (It's better now!) Bob Chesbro gave lots of good advice          while people were practicing the techniques. Next was lunch at a local          Chinese buffet, during which time Dr. Barber told some fascinating stories          and Dr. Gyi hit and berated me for eating too much meat! [/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]In the afternoon Mr.          Hartman did a session on Tapi-Tapi counters that started with simple Modern          Arnis techniques, worked to more involved techniques, then worked in some          Balintawak flavor. It was a very interesting progression, and really brought          out the counter and counter-for-counter ideas. Dr. Gyi then gave his second          knife session, focusing on thrust/slash combinations and ending in some          simulated group-on-group sparring. (Again, I was forced to miss part of          this session because of my duties.) Next was the round table meeting,          discussing where we are and where we're going, and the banquet (during          which I once again took blows and reprimands from Dr. Gyi due to my carnivorous          ways). The banquet was well done including the beautiful glasswork done          by Janice Stranc for the centerpieces. Hopefully these will have photographed          well so all can see them.[/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]Following the banquet          were the awards of promotions to Janice Stranc, Scott Caffrey, Mike Milazzo,          and Ed Mengel. (Please excuse me if I have misspelled anyone's name; I          am going from memory.) Other awards of appreciation were given. Next was          the presentation of Mr. Hartman's certificate for promotion to seventh          degree, signed by me as chair of the WMAA Advisory Board (which is responsible          for the promotion) and endorsed by Grandmasters Gyi and Jornales. Board          members Chad Dulin and Sal Todaro helped me present the certificate.[/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]Next came some amazing          demonstrations. (I'm sure I won't recall the order correctly.) Capoeira          Mandinga Buffalo gave a very memorable capoeira demonstration, with several          musical instruments and lots of acrobatic kicks. It was a real show-stopper.          There were many questions asked after the performance and indeed throughout          the night, as many of the group's members stayed to watch and later to          play. Next, Mr. Hartman's junior demo team (six students around ten years          old, give-or-take) gave a nice demonstration of stick anyos and some sinawalis.          Jack Latorre and his long-suffering assistant Tim (whose last name escapes          me) showed some advanced Pekiti Tersia techniques, including a fascinating          and unusual sword. He also did some rope work. Dan Anderson, assisted          by Jaye Spiro, showed the progression in Modern Arnis from basic techniques          through more advanced countering of the counter. Bong and Wendy Jornales          put on a demonstration of speed, skill, and varied weaponry that as usual          left jaws on the floor. I hope I have not forgotten anyone![/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]I had administrative          matters to attend to afterwards but many participants went out and had          a good time that night (and other nights)--some at local bars and restaurants,          some in Niagara Falls, Canada, and some in the hotel's hot tub.[/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]Sunday morning was          Mr. Jornales' second session, covering the four corners drill and some          sinawalis. I had studied his system previously and had some familiarity          with the techniques and drills but everyone came away with something.          I worked with our own Mr. Hubbard which was a pleasure. Finally, Dr. Gyi          finished things off with yoga using a single stick to assist. He continually          related the importance of yoga to the needs of a martial artist or soldier.          As always, he showed great respect for the memory of Prof. Presas.[/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]Mr. Hartman closed          the camp--and then the fun began! In keeping with tradition, the sparring          gear came out and Bob Hubbard took center stage. He sparred Rich Parsons          staff vs. two sticks, me stick vs. stick, and ace (Primo Luciano) empty          hand. (I may have forgotten other matches.) Afterwards many of us went          out to a local favorite, Antoinette's, for ice cream sundaes. I spoke          with Dr. Gyi and Ed Mengel briefly in the airport before either flight          left.[/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]I don't know where          to begin with thanks, and I apologize in advance to those I will surely          forget (or whose names I will mis-type). Tim Hartman and Janice Stranc          did a great job once again--first class all the way. Thanks to them for          putting me up in their home for the first few nights and for, well, so          many other things. Give my love to Thor and Loki (their horse-sized dogs).          Thanks to Rich Parsons for rooming with me the last few nights and for          the many things he did to help out--serving on the black belt board most          notably. Thanks to Chad Dulin for sharing so much with me over the weekend;          I really picked up some neat tips. He also served as Ed Mengel's partner          during the test. Thanks to Sal Todaro and the Philadelphia group who are          always so much fun to have around; he too helped during the test. Thanks          to Dr. Barber for showing me some Gunting techniques--I'm now a believer!--as          well as some very nice-looking wooden swords. Thanks to Dan Carr's students          Bob Chesbro and Mark (whose last name escapes me) for the frequent one-on-one          assistance they provided to participants (including me!). Thanks to all          the instructors for helping us put on such a varied program! Thanks to          Dan Anderson for once again signing a book for me but also for just being          the great role model that he is--he set the standard for work ethic at          the camp. Thanks to Mrs. Jornales for her demonstration and her enthusiasm.          Thanks to Dan Carr and Jaye Spiro for serving on the testing board. Ms.          Spiro always has a kind word for everyone and that's appreciated too!          Thanks to Mr. Hubbard and Susan Spann for technical support, including          the taping of the camp. Thanks to Mr. Jornales for his support and his          kind words about the WMAA at the banquet. Thanks to Dr. Gyi for his advice          and for taking so much time to chat with me and for his support of the          WMAA in particular, and Modern Arnis in general, in so many ways.[/SIZE]
   [SIZE=2]As always, I speak          from the heart when I say thanks most of all to the camp participants,          because it was for and about you, and you're the ones who make it work--and          who make it worthwhile. See you next year![/SIZE]
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He began his training in his birthplace of San Francisco in 1966 and credits four men as his teachers. Mr. Nackord states, "The founder of American karate, Ed Parker (deceased), uniquely taught an understanding of the principles and relationships of movement, expressing them in terms clear to his students. Eight-time world heavyweight karate champion and the first American kickboxer, Joe Lewis, teaches an understanding of strategies and attitudes of fighting learned only from his vast experience. World champion boxing trainer, Marty Feldman, teaches skills and realism found only in the art of boxing, and I consider him the best puncher I have ever seen. And, the internationally known person who first brought kickboxing to the United States and founder of the American Bando Association, Dr. Maung Gyi, teaches the true combative, healthful, and spiritual aspects of the martial arts possessed by few instructors today. Dr. Gyi is currently a mentor to many of the foremost martial artists in the world."

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[I]Burma, July 1944

"At dawn, B and C Companies of the 319th were ordered to take the hill. The Gurkhas in those units looked exhausted; they had no sleep the night before. The enemy shelling had also stretched their endurance, but they were determined to secure the hill at any cost.

"I saw Jemadar [Lieutenant] Yambahadur with the lead platoon; he was assigned to B Company. I rushed toward him and knelt down, touching my forehead to his feet. This native gesture was also against British military rules, but I performed it any way. An image had suddenly flashed in my mind that it would be the last time I would see the brave jemadar.

"Maj. John Thorpe, commander of B Company, gave a signal and led his men up the hill.

"A British captain, Frank Blaker, about 20 years old, came to our dressing station and asked for MOs to be assigned to his platoons in C Company. During previous actions he had lost several of his MOs. I volunteered and was assigned to the 1st Platoon, under Jemadar Rahasing.

"My section leader was Havildar Manprasad.

"C Company was ordered to detour about two miles and come up from the rear of the hill. The monsoon rains had not stopped. We struggled through deep and slippery ravines, and climbed through tangled vines and thorny scrub. Our movement was slow. The trackless jungle became more dense as we tried to climb the steep 2,000 foot hill.

"One Gurkha slipped and fell into a snake pit. Before he could regain his footing, a large King Cobra rose above him and struck him in the face. The man groaned and writhed in agony, but the snake continued to strike until he lay motionless. The men behind me were horrified.

"Jemadar Rahasing rushed forward and chopped off the Cobra’s head with his kukri before it could strike again.

"I wanted to attend to the victim, but the jemadar signaled me to move on. The climb became more difficult. At some places we had to crawl on our hands and knees and hold on to trees, roots, branches or vines to avoid falling. Leeches, mosquitoes and other insects attracted by human sweat began to attack us. A Gurkha next to me had about 20 tree leeches on his face. With his hands busy climbing, he could only bite at the ones that attempted to wiggle into his mouth.

"Attack on Hill 2171

"After five hours of strenuous climbing, we reached the edge of the second plateau, followed by 2nd and 3rd Platoons. We discovered eight men were missing from our company. No one could say if they had been bitten by snakes, or fell and died for some other reason, or simply lost their way in the thick and tangled bushes.

"A Gurkha scout crawled silently to Capt. Blaker and told him there was another ridge to climb. He had spotted two machine gun nests, well hidden behind thick brush between the trees. There were also two large bunkers near the top. The enemy was well dug in. Capt. Blaker radioed for a mortar barrage to weaken the Japanese defense’ and cover our movement.

"According to Blaker, our C Company was to coordinate its assault with B Company, which was approaching from the other side of the hill. There was still a considerable distance for us to cover before we would reach our target. The captain therefore signalled us to move onto a narrow but well-trod path made earlier by the Japanese. It was the only direct route to the objective.

"Our mortar bombardment stopped, and soon we heard gunfire and loud yells coming from the other side of the hill. B Company had begun its assault. Realizing our company was behind schedule, Capt. Blaker rushed up the ridge along the path, leading the column.

"The Japanese opened fire, and several Gurkhas from lst Platoon fell. The rest of the men dove behind trees, rocks and bushes to find cover. Some crawled through the underbrush to try to silence the machine guns, but they were stopped by Japanese grenades. We were caught in a crossfire.

"When the firing stopped we could hear the wounded men groaning. I crawled toward several wounded and administered field dressings. The men lay low and waited for orders.

"The Japanese machine gunners were also waiting for us to rise.

"To our horror, Capt. Blaker suddenly sprang up and charged at the concealed enemy position up the path, firing his carbine as he advanced. A blast from a Japanese machine gun hit him. He fell sideways, and Jemadar Rahasing shouted, “Sahib, stay down! Stay down!”

"But Blaker stood up and charged again, firing wildly and yelling, “Charge! Charge, men! Charge!”

"Another blast threw him against a tree. He dropped his weapon, clutched his chest and shouted, “I’m dying! Come on C Company! Take this hill!”

"Then he collapsed, his body riddled with bullets.

"Inspired by the daring of this British officer, the Gurkhas sprang up, yelling: “Gorkhali Ayo!” (“The Gurkhas are coming!”)

"With drawn kukris and fixed bayonets they charged. The Japanese continued to fire, and more Gurkhas fell, but they fanned out and rushed through the dense trees and tangled thickets. When they reached the enemy positions, they cut down the Japanese in their foxholes and trenches. They succeeded in securing the second plateau.

"Capt. John Sweetman immediately took command of C Company, and quickly reorganized the men surviving from 2nd and 3rd Platoons.

"Then he ordered: “Men, we have to take the bunkers at the very top.”

"He led the renewed attack, and the young Gurkhas charged with him up the hill, again yelling, “Gorkhali Ayo! Gorkhali Ayo!”

"The Japanese, realizing they were being encircled, at first fought furiously, but then fled along an escape trail back into the jungle. B and C Companies linked up on the crest.

“The Japanese flag there was lowered and the Union Jack was raised in its place. I saw Sweetman cry as he saluted that flag atop Hill 2171.”[/I]

Captain Frank Blaker was awarded a posthumous VC.

Lieutenant Yambahadur appears to have survived, Dr Gyi’s premonition notwithstanding.

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                       [SIZE=3][B]Why was the item by "Alanorei" posted?

Notice that this entry is referenced from “phonies39” and relates to the charlatan Gyi claiming all sorts of unlikely things. I am “Captain” Blaker’s nephew, the story is bogus in all sorts of ways Major Blaker did indeed lead the attack, was KIA and awarded the VC. If Gyi had really been there he would not have repeated the “boys own stories” clap-trap loosely and fancifully embellished from the British press bravado of the day. There was no glorious “Charge for King and Country Men!!” stuff. However there was methodical, serious and determined fighting by brave, dedicated soldiers. How do I know this? I have my uncles effects including a hand-written description of that action, warts-and-all, by Lt Jimmy Sweetman, the company officer. “Dr” Gyi is a known “bull-artist” around the traps, it is a pity people like him parasitise and cloud the actions of others. His clap-trap should not be perpetuated. The facts should speak for themselves, they dont need embelishing.[/B][/SIZE]
7:13 AM

Didn’t you already try this once before?

See, the thing is, it’s not that Gyi is untouchable because the Dog Brothers are for real

Where you went off the rails before was trying to paint the dog brothers as “bullshit by association”

Also, do you have to paste in so much garbage that’s not pertinent to this forum (the tags from the other forum and such)? If you’re going to cross post the same crap all over the internet, at least make it generic enough to not look weird.

ar549, do you really expect people to go through all that crap you posted? If you are so intend in pursuing the investigation, why not, at the very least, write it down in a more organized matter (subject, introduction, facts, conclusion.)

And no, that’s not just rethorical. Do so and people will have a better understanding of what you are trying to say. Fuck that I’m going to spend the energy in trying to decipher what you just wrote.

If you don’t have the time or energy to give your readers the courtesy of presenting your facts in an organized, professional and objective manner, don’t expect the readers to give you the time and energy to go through your disorganized post. You are not a teenager; don’t write like one.

And just so that you don’t miss it:

Keep it clean, focused, professional and objective, and maybe you’ll get your message across.

ar549,

In addition to what El Macho mentioned, beyond putting in for historical context purposes, there isn’t much point in including outdated material such as the piece from 1999 before Gyi was already confronted and his subsequent apology.

Also, if you are going to try and bring into question his skills, it appears you have a very long uphill climb ahead of you if you wish to make a case.

So make it.

(NOTE: if you or anyone else try and make this thread about anything other than the CURRENT issues surrounding Gyi, the e-scythe is in hand and BanBot 3000 is fired up and idling at the ready.)

The approach we usually like to see is a little bit of background on the person, and then a list of the claims they’ve made which the poster feels might be suspect.

Then, ideally, the posters thoughts and findings on each claim in turn.

In a succinct and organized manner.

Just noticed this is in MABS, my bad.

To date Dr. Gyi has never made any kind of formal apology. It was rumored that he mumbled some kind of “Sorry if I caused any trouble” and then went on to retire but it is well documented the he is not in fact “Retired” and in fact it comes out he is many years younger than he has claimed in the past and is traveling the seminar circuit and being full supported by none other than Dan Inosanto.

The reason I didn’t clean up the posts was simple. in the past I have been accused of doctoring up posts and things by forum members, thus I chose to leave it pretty much as I found the stuff in its original form.

The point is and has always been that many people have been defrauded by Dr. Gyi through his fraudulent claims of combat and his claims of being a American POW in Vietnam not one but tow times. This disgraceful situation has continued on for years because people like Marc Denny and Dan Inosanto never told the truth to concerning him and in fact enabled him to contiue business as usual, more lies, ear whispering, and eye winking.

If you check the POW Network site which has a very good relationship with Bullshido through Samuel Browning you will see there is a active case against Dr. Gyi and the last entry was a link to Dan Inosantos website. Dan was sent many emails which asked him to not ruin his name by association to this fraud, he chose to ignore them.

Well, if they were as long winded as the crap you’re posting, i can see why he ignored them

How about you SUMMARIZE your ideas and post LINKS to the unaltered, verbatim resources?

I am not asking you to go back and edit your posts as you are so famous for doing. I am TELLING you to go forward - make a case; Don’t repost crud which includes HTML markup from other sites. We are not interested in non-original material. We may be interested in YOUR material, if you have any.

Make your case, provide evidence, links, and references/attachments to other supporting material. Ask questions on the areas where you may need some help. If you need examples of how to start creating a framework to do this, examine the finalized investigations on Bullshido.com.

If you can’t handle making a proper case, you may want to consider you may not be the right person handle looking into Gyi. If you are so passionate on the subject of him, then you must come to terms with the fact you are flubbing it badly as of now. Continuing to do so will most likely create the opposite effect of what it appears you want.

I hate to do the oversized yellow text thing, but Jesus Christ man. ar549, could you please pay attention to this? Honestly I really want to hear what you have to say, but I won’t until really pay attention to this.

Follow the following template:

Introduction: Who is Dr. Gyi, his title and claims (however true or false they are)
thesis: mention the titles and claims that you suspect are false (only those you suspect are false, and that you have evidence.)

body: describe in organized detail why each of these titles and claims is false.

criticism about your POV: list arguments made by Dr. Gyi and his associates, if any, with the purpose of disprove the veracity of YOUR claims and findings.

counterargument: address every argument made as a criticism of your POV

summary: should I really tell you what to put here?

If you have a VALID point to make, you can use this template.

I would have thought someone with AR549’s military experience would know how to write a report.

Bryan, Marc Denny no longer maintains a relationship with Dr. Gyi. Why do you claim otherwise?

Roan, If you prefer to be on a first name basis with me thats fine. As far as Denny, one of the reasons so many people still believe Dr. Gyi and all his bullshit is because Denny nor Inosanto ever came out and admitted that he “Gyi” was completely full of shit about his ever being in the military much less having killed anyone with a knife, and was never ever a POW as he claimed. In the end him claiming to be POW was what got him busted, that is easily verifiable. To date there have been no military records found about Gyi or any of the many names he has used, his war stories were stolen and in many cases just invented.

What I don’t get is why you would make such a big deal about some kid wearing unauthorized wings and not be all over Gyi and anyone who helped to legitimize him, A man who wore the star of a General, and claimed he was a POW no less than two times?

So what does this have to do with Gyi’s fighting ability?

The case was made long ago by POW Network, this was just a brief update to show the man is still actively making money off his past lies and some of the biggest names in Martial Arts are helping him do it.

This would all be very funny  if we were chatting up martial idiocracy, but I find no humor on the backs of dead Americans. I stated before that I have been in a plane with American flagged draped coffins for a ceremony as they first arrived back on American soil after being recovered in Vietnam and Laos, those men were and are hero's, they made the ultimate sacrifice, they deserve honor, for me making a public stand on this issue seems like the right thing to do.

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1643824&postcount=11

Since you’re so big on validating claims, could you please provide us with verifiable documentation proving this claim.

Oh noes, you found out my real name. It must have been difficult going to the Dog Brothers website and discovering my true name considering my handle here is the same as my “doggy” name.

Marc Denny has publicly established his position and feelings about Dr. Gyi and no longer has a relationship with Dr. Gyi. Marc Denny has withdrawn his support for Dr. Gyi based on Dr. Gyi’s exposed lies. You, however, continue to insinuate that Marc Denny still supports Dr. Gyi, WHICH HE NO LONGER DOES. At what point do you recognize the present situation?

Regarding my personal feelings about Dr. Gyi, I think what he did is despicable. That is why I don’t talk about him. Better men than I at the POW Network (you are not one of them) are doing a far better job of outing Dr. Gyi for the fraud that he is. You continue to put Dr. Gyi’s name in the limelight, not me.

As for the kid I ran into, I made one or two posts out of 1200+. Hardly a big deal. Let’s compare that to your 550+ posts, of which how many are disparaging Marc Denny and his NO LONGER EXISTENT relationship with Dr. Gyi?

Poi

PS - I will now be following Teh El Macho’s lead and refer to you as mindless simpleton. That is all.

If this is your intent, you are failing at it.

In fact, you are SPOILING the work of the POW Network by making it appear as if you have a vendetta against Dr. Gyi.

With every poorly thought out post you make on the subject, you MAKE IT HARDER for people who KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

Think about it.

Mr. Kagan I am once again impresed with your attempts to help Ar discover reason. Your constant attempts to help him form inteligent discorse is amazeing. personaly i would Have stoped trying to help him and just leave his tag as a perma reminder to any one reading his posts.

gents, simply put, dr.gyi is a very good martial artist [of this there is no doubt], however [although bryan and i just disagreed on another topic] , gyi pretty much fabricates most of his military carreer–i remember when i was young , i was an avid collector of BLACK BELT magazine. there was an early article on bando. in this article, gyi indicated that in burma , he was a houseboy for a high ranking japanese soldier. later on in his articles, he stated that he was a member of the office of strategic services[south east asia , chindits etc]. an organization that exposed military frauds wrote a massive bullshido expose on gyi. they found his [either] jr. high or high school records [at the time he claimed he was supposed to be in the oss.later he indicated that he represented burma in the olympics [ boxing team] a search of this was found to be another fabrication. there was no proof of him being in any gurka units[ the british keep very good records of that] nor of the kukri being a burmese weapon of bando in anyway .this has all been documented on different sites. he is highly regarde as a very good martial artist [bando,karate etc] and it is a shame that his false background upsets those very good skills–ralph g