new2bjj
February 23, 2007, 5:00pm
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jdinca:
The grappling analogy isn’t the best but it’s the first one I came up with. I agree with the problem of changing targets.
I’ve done live fire training and agree it’s the closest to getting into a real fight. That said, it is still done in a strictly regulated environment. Preparing a structure for interior live fire training takes quite a bit of time. Compare it to getting into the ring where there are rules to the fight. Still a very valuable training tool, even if it’s not totally “real world”. It is also the exception, rather than the rule. The vast amount of training is done in nonfire, static settings.
On a fire response, the first in officer sizes up the situation, gives orders and then goes in. That is the beginning of controlling the situation. In the case of a rescue, that prep time becomes a matter of seconds and is a “real fight”. One that few firefighters will have to face in their careers but one that is trained for at length in static situations. I’ve been in the fire service much longer than I’ve been in ma, so I’m comfortable with the analogy.
3rd Dan in which kenpo system? Do you feel that it was comprehensive in scope, or was it lacking in certain areas? One thing we’re working on is incorporating more ground fighting applications. It’s an area that I think is lacking in kenpo in general.
I hope you are not with the San Ramon fire department, as we had a fire on this street, and they just, well, watched. Two guys that live on my block are Ex ( 20 years) Oakland and SF Fireman, and they were like, WTF? Aren’t you going to do anything. Not saying that you were, just asking.
jdinca
February 23, 2007, 6:47pm
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new2bjj:
I hope you are not with the San Ramon fire department, as we had a fire on this street, and they just, well, watched. Two guys that live on my block are Ex ( 20 years) Oakland and SF Fireman, and they were like, WTF? Aren’t you going to do anything. Not saying that you were, just asking.
Yes, that’s my department. When and where was this fire? We have 13 companies and cover 155 square miles. As for your retired friends, I can understand their point of view. OSHA has put regulations in place the last few years that really hamper our ability to get the job done. Nothing is worse than having to wait for a second crew to show up before you make entry. BTW, I know a number of people who work for Oakland and SF. When asked about how they handle the “2 in - 2 out” law, the common response is **** OSHA! The people who write sign my paycheck have decided to follow the law. Not much I can do about it.
Not to be an ass (and I’m certainly as guilty of this as anyone), but the MABS forum is supposed to stay as clear from thread derailment as possible.
jdinca
February 23, 2007, 11:09pm
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No problem. I was thinking the same thing myself. I just wanted to respond to your post before I let this thread go.
new2bjj
February 24, 2007, 2:36am
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jdinca:
Yes, that’s my department. When and where was this fire? We have 13 companies and cover 155 square miles. As for your retired friends, I can understand their point of view. OSHA has put regulations in place the last few years that really hamper our ability to get the job done. Nothing is worse than having to wait for a second crew to show up before you make entry. BTW, I know a number of people who work for Oakland and SF. When asked about how they handle the “2 in - 2 out” law, the common response is **** OSHA! The people who write sign my paycheck have decided to follow the law. Not much I can do about it.
The fire was in San Ramon, by Walt Disney school. I’m sorry, but those guys were a bunch of posers.
You make fun of my font/color, this coming from a person who has a wombat for a symbol. Besides the font/color I choose does not individualize me, any more than looking at your anoying wombat makes you an idividual.
Actually Aikido is a pretty good system, sorry you dont like it or that it did not work for you.
dont be messin with mcwombat now,… that there “symbol” is culturally sensitive… as is his hatred of Aikido…
Im a late comer to this thread… not that that would make a difference as all of the smackdowns I had in mind were dished out on the first page already
Again, not to be an ass, but please refrain from posting “I have nothing else to add” comments on the MABS threads.
DO U HAV N-E-THING ELS3 TO AD,??