Got into an argument with some guy recently, and now he’s saying he wants to kick my ass. Since I am usually not one to step back from a fight, chances are I may be forced to face him. Since he supposedly has a fair amount of experience in martial arts, and I have absolutely none, I am wondering what my chances are.
I’ve been in a fair amount of streetfights, and so far always came out on top unless when getting my ass kicked by larger groups. Never been knocked out or down, and so far I’ve finished all my fights standing up.
my usual “strategy” consists of punching (mostly to the head) until they go down. this is usually preceded by someone trying to punch a semi-drunk me, so in the rush of adrenaline I just react.
Him:
28 yo
about 6’
about 220 lbs (?)
scrawny build, tiny arms and shoulders, manboobs, beergut
supposed blackbelt in shotokan karate he got while a teen
nobody has ever seen him fight a male
utter dipshit, constantly bragging about being a great fighter
I actually try to avoid them whenever I can, especially since people here usually like ganging up on a single person.
However, when a group of guys are beating up a friend of mine for no reason whatsoever, or when some asshole punches me for looking at him the wrong way, I don’t really have much choice.
I am by no means some kind of tough guy, but I won’t let aggressive assholes prevent me from going out on friday nights either.
I believe when you get pushed into a corner, you gotta swing your knuckles. But, then comes the responsibility of avoiding such situations in the first place. I have a feeling that the other guy indeed is cornering you into a fucked up situation, but how much effort have you done to de-escalate the issue???.
Sometimes people will see you the wrong way or push you just to get into a fight, and it’s totally natural to feel like grabbing a blunt object with a surface texture similar to a grade 50 sandpaper and shove it up his ass, but it’s not worth it.
There is this guy at a salsa club where I regularly go that always looks at me the wrong way. For some X or Y reason he got a beef with me or with some of my friends… he even once shoved a friend of mine one time just for the heck of it.
My thoughts are always “I want to grab my beer bottle, breat it to get a sharp edge with glass needles and make him eat it.” But that’s for a few seconds. After that, I remember I’m not a teenager anymore. I just think it’s not worth the effort.
Something tells me you didn’t do your best to avoid the situation you are in… :tard:
Ignore him. If he comes up to kick your ass, just tell him “hey, I won’t fight you” and walk away. No insults, no stupid macho stares, no nothing. Just ignore his macho rants and walk away. Let him call you gay and shit. Be the better man. Make sure you got witnesses that see you are avoiding any confrontation - this will come handy in a court of law if you end up trading blows with him. If the other dude calls you gay or shit like that, just ignore it.
As long as you can avoid physical confrontation do so. There is no shame in that.
What do you mean? If you mean that you don’t run away when someone is hitting you, then that’s fine. If you mean that you aren’t smart enough to walk away because a dude is staring at you the wrong way or calling you names, then you need to have your face slammed to the floor as part of your maturing education.
Only if he tries to hit you. Otherwise, you need to grow a few more neurons.
Why does he has a fair amount of experience in martial arts? Because he says so? He is a 28 year old beer-gutted, scrawny fat ass who claims a black belt in point sparring when he was a teen. Pleeeeeezeeee. :bs:
That same guy I mentioned a few lines above, the one that always stares me and my friends in a very hostile way, that same silly fuck used to claim to have a black belt in karate, too. When he shoved my friend (who was already a bit drunk), my friend shoved him back and told him “let’s go outside”. His boastings of black beltness just vaporized on the spot and gave excuses not to. He never again boasted of having a black belt (at least not in front of us.)
My toughts:
he is a fat ass
he is talking out of his ass
you need to grow up a bit
walk away if you can (worry about fighting him only if the time comes AFTER YOU HAVE DONE YOUR BEST TO AVOID THE FAT FUCKER.)
whatever happens, make sure you never start anything with him, and have witnesses attesting to day - mucho importante in case he fights you so that you can sue his sorry ass in court.
don’t pick up fights until you learn to defend yourself
Actually, I take that last one back… don’t pick up a fight just because an idiot is looking to have one with you.
Believe me when I tell you, most of the time, it’s pretty easy to diffuse a fight. The moment you ignore an idiot screaming at you, he will most likely feel like… well, like an idiot. Be on the lookout for a sucker punch, but just keep ignoring him. He will feel so stupid (counting that you will fight him back when in fact you are not) that he won’t know what to do. He will walk away thinking himself as a winner, that you are a pussy and that he made you shit on your pants. Let him walk away thinking that. You’ll be the better man, and the real winner.
elnyka, thanks for your post, and you are definitely right. So far, I have mainly ignored the guy, but it only seems to be getting worse. Until now, he has called me names, threatened me, and even shoved me a few times. I’ve been able to keep calm, but it almost seems like every time nothing happens he just gets more courage out of it.
Since I live in a small town, there’s not much chance of avoiding the guy, and I sure as hell am not going to let him “banish” me from going to a bar or two at night.
As for not being one to step back from a fight, by that I mean I won’t let people do shit to me or others. In this case, for example, what started the whole thing was that he was pestering/groping a female friend of mine (against her will), and I told him to take his hands off of her.
I am not in the least bit interested in the guy, but he seems rather unwilling to let it go.
Ahhh, there you go, now we have some info. I’m no expert of the law, so maybe some of the folks here may want to pitch in.
First, file a police report. I think you can accuse him of harassment or some shit like that. First things first, file a report to the police, and tell them that:
he was gropping your friend against her will (document that he was sexually harassing her)
in the police report, document every single incident in which he has harassed you and shoved you.
Do that ASAP, and get a copy of it and show it to him next time he tries to shove you around, and tell him that you wil be forced to get a restraining order. Usually that will stop most people with a minimum of neurons to stop in their tracks.
In the worst case scenario (if it comes to blows), at least you have covered your ass legaly, and you have proper documentation that he is the aggressor, not you. This is LawSuitLand my friend. Fuckers like that one you are describing can have the balls to try to sue you if you happen to beat his ass (or at least give a good fight.)
If you have friends, don’t go alone. Or in your best interest, just take a break from the places you go for a few weeks. There is no shame in that.
And don’t be intimidated by that guy. See, I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that those that boast of MA credentials to intimidate people and pick up a fight don’t necessarily have them. I have a feeling that people that work hard in the Martial Arts do not necessarily go out picking up a fight. It takes a lot of time and personal effort, a discipline and mentality totally different from the bad-ass jock type. I may be wrong, but that’s my impression.
If it ever comes to blows, this would be my recommendation: keep your eyes open at all times. Keep your hands raised, not closed but open (don’t let him know you are about to punch him), and keep telling him to back off that you don’t want to fight. You will know when both of you cross the point of no return. At that moment, be the one to throw the first punch and keep going at it. Get yourself close to him, kick his shins and hammer at his face. Black belt or not, he will know that you are not going to be a helpless victim (the type of people this fucker predates upon).
Is that a winning strategy? I dunno. I’m a n00b in Martial Arts. I’ve been in fights too (when I was younger and stupider), but I’m just a n00b. As a result, I’m really just talking out of my ass, but that’s all I can think of as a recommendation.
Which is why it is of upmost importance that you file a police report ASAP. If and when the time comes to throw the first punch before he does, you will have a police report documenting that he is the aggressor and that you are the victim.
Avoid that shit as much as you can, but also cover your legal ass ASAP.