I will be relocating to West Virginia in a few months because of my new job and I want to train in a Self-defense system that is not geared toward sport or tournament fighting. I heard about an Instructor named Doug Day, who teaches in Charelston West Virginia, and I was told he teaches a Tactical Combatives system that is very effective and he is a highly regarded Personal protection Instructor.
Does anyone out there know anything about him or his system ?
Thanks guys for any info…
Ojinga
Instructor Doug Day of West Virginia found !
Hey guys,
I flew into West Virginia on Wednesday, the 10th of March 2010 to make arrangements for my move to West Virginia.
When I got there, I got information on Combatives Instructor Doug Day, he is teaching classes at a place called PJ’s Fitness Center , which is in a city named Cross Lanes, he teaches on Thursday nights.
I went there on Thursday to meet him, he permitted me to take a free class to see what I thought.
I was blown away at how effective the system is, the system is called
Jun Shin Do, which is a Korean Military Combative Self-defense system, Instructor Day trained in the system while stationed along the D.M.Z in South Korea in the 80’s.
The techniques were simple, direct and lethal, this is not like any martial art I have ever seen, there is no fancy wasted movements or mystical nonsense, just down and dirty Self-defense.
I studied Brazilian Jujitsu for 5 years and Shotokan Karate for 3 years, I wish I would have been able to study Jun Shin Do instead, I feel like I wasted my time in those arts, I was shown by Instructor Day that sport
oriented Martial Arts are not effective in real combat engagements.
One example he demonstrated was he told me to put him one of my Brazilian Jujitsu guard moves, which I did, I had him in my guard, had him held tight to my body, the next thing I felt was a pincer grip on my windpipe and a thumb in my eye socket and a knee to my groin.
My hold was neutralized to say the least, it hurt like hell, I did not expect this defense, because I was so used to “Sportsman” like conduct in competition where these type of techniques are illegal. I had him locked up pretty good, so I thought, he slipped out like a snake, I felt kinda embarrassed.
Instructor Day seems like a nice guy, very laid back and informal in his teaching style, but his abilities in Combative fighting are down right scary, he does not shy away from telling you, or showing you just how easy it is to kill someone with Hand to Hand combat, regardless of who the person is.
I am not easily impressed, and I was skeptical as usual, but I have to admit I was sold, great experience.
Take care my fellow Martial Artists
Ojinga
was he missing? if not, could we arrange for him (and you) to become so?
the next thing I felt was a pincer grip on my windpipe and a thumb in my eye socket
I really do have to wonder if you were sleeping through all those BJJ classes you say you went to if you don’t know what to do when someone gives you their arms like this.
Seems like a trolling sales pitch to me. I think ojinga needs to lose himself…somewhere.
[quote=ojinga;2330740]
One example he demonstrated was he told me to put him one of my Brazilian Jujitsu guard moves, which I did, I had him in my guard, had him held tight to my body [/quote]
Does this sound like someone who studied BJJ for 5 years? You put him in one of your “guard moves”. You “guard moves”? What the fuck is a guard move?
i think it’s like a dance move. possibly some sort of defensive swish of the skirt. seems that good old doug didn’t like having his advances spurned, though…
I am not a Martial Artist, I am a Professor at Princeton University, and I am writing a book on “Psychological prompted human responses”.
I go on line to different blog sites and make degrading comments about one activity or another, in this case Brazilian jujitsu, in which I attempt to elicit a reply in defense of the activity I have downplayed. I do this with other sites as well, such as Baseball, Politics, Movies, Music etc;.
It is also a study of how these internet forums engage people in pointless debate over insignificant subject matter, and how individuals berate one another over who is better or worse in one particular activity, and which individuals use curse words to convey their thoughts.
It’s all just an experiment to see how individual’s react if an activity they are close too is put down or degraded, I then annotate the responses, and how quickly it takes someone to respond on the sites.
You all took the bait, do not worry, most people fail this test.
I do not know who Instructor Doug Day is ?
I just found some information on his Martial Arts School, and used his system as an example for the study.
Thanks for participating in this study, as unknowing as you all were.
It was amazing how quick everyone jumped on this post, this site lacks the intellectual quantitative intrinsic nature in which I was searching, but entertaining
to say the least.
Sincerely Ojinga
[quote=ojinga;2330845]I am not a Martial Artist, I am a Professor at Princeton University, and I am writing a book on “Psychological prompted human responses”.
I go on line to different blog sites and make degrading comments about one activity or another, in this case Brazilian jujitsu, in which I attempt to elicit a reply in defense of the activity I have downplayed. I do this with other sites as well, such as Baseball, Politics, Movies, Music etc;.
It is also a study of how these internet forums engage people in pointless debate over insignificant subject matter, and how individuals berate one another over who is better or worse in one particular activity, and which individuals use curse words to convey their thoughts.
It’s all just an experiment to see how individual’s react if an activity they are close too is put down or degraded, I then annotate the responses, and how quickly it takes someone to respond on the sites.
You all took the bait, do not worry, most people fail this test.
I do not know who Instructor Doug Day is ?
I just found some information on his Martial Arts School, and used his system as an example for the study.
Thanks for participating in this study, as unknowing as you all were.
It was amazing how quick everyone jumped on this post, this site lacks the intellectual quantitative intrinsic nature in which I was searching, but entertaining
to say the least.
Sincerely Ojinga[/quote]
Fucking awesome, prof. Before you get the fuck out of here, could I make a couple of inquiries?
Is this really the best way for you to backpedal after you trolljob fails?
Why didn’t you actually insult brazilian jiujitsu openly instead of saying “This new system is better than BJJ”? Because you actually haven’t insulted BJJ yet.
What was your … Fuck it. Dude, what the fuck? You’re a fucking clownball.
Good try though.
Well, not really. Professors at Princeton who do this kind of ignorant shit? Dude, how do you not have lackey research assistants to handle this dirty work?
I would presume a PRINCETON PROFESSOR would know the proper format for typing out a book title.
*hint it uses italics
*double hint…sometimes they get WHacKY and underline it.
I go on line to different blog sites and make degrading comments about one activity or another, in this case Brazilian jujitsu, in which I attempt to elicit a reply in defense of the activity I have downplayed. I do this with other sites as well, such as Baseball, Politics, Movies, Music etc;.
How did you ever find your way off www.matbattle.com?
It is also a study of how these internet forums engage people in pointless debate over insignificant subject matter, and how individuals berate one another over who is better or worse in one particular activity, and which individuals use curse words to convey their thoughts.
It’s all just an experiment to see how individual’s react if an activity they are close too is put down or degraded, I then annotate the responses, and how quickly it takes someone to respond on the sites.
You all took the bait, do not worry, most people fail this test.
Other then the Question, who curses like a longshoreman, a sailor, a truckdriver and a state trooper combined, I saw no other curses.
Please, elaborate, Professor.
I do not know who Instructor Doug Day is ?
I just found some information on his Martial Arts School, and used his system as an example for the study.
That makes all of us who do not know whom Doug Day is.
WHOM, Professor…WHOM.
Quick hint. If you would use “he” it is “who”. If you would use "him’ it is “whom”.
I do not know HIM (Doug Day)…so it is: I do know know whom Instructor Doug Day is.
faggot.
Thanks for participating in this study, as unknowing as you all were.
It was amazing how quick everyone jumped on this post, this site lacks the intellectual quantitative intrinsic nature in which I was searching, but entertaining
to say the least.
Sincerely Ojinga
We love nothing more then rubbing your face in your fail.
[quote=ojinga;2330845]I am not a Martial Artist, I am a Professor at Princeton University, and I am writing a book on “Psychological prompted human responses”.
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[quote=ojinga;2330740]
I studied Brazilian Jujitsu for 5 years and Shotokan Karate for 3 years, I wish I would have been able to study Jun Shin Do instead, I feel like I wasted my time in those arts, I was shown by Instructor Day that sport
oriented Martial Arts are not effective in real combat engagements.
Ojinga[/quote]
Ha…ha…ha…hahahahahahahahahaaaaaa… So, you went to Ralph Severe’s school of BS?
I’d ban you myself but, I’ll let jnp enjoy this “spam.”
That’s for sure.
If you are, then you’re in big trouble.
Psychologists do not knowingly engage in behavior that is harassing or demeaning to persons with whom they interact in their work based on factors such as those persons’ age, gender, gender identity, race, ethnicity, culture, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability, language, or socioeconomic status.
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http://www.apa.org/ethics/code/index.aspx
In other words, you’re a nobody who wastes their time trying to get a rise out of strangers.
I am a Law Enforcement Officer with over 13 years experience on the street, a U.S.Army Veteran (Officer in Psychological Warfare Division) who has been involved in Combat, and I am a Certified Defensive Tactics and Hand to Hand Combat Instructor and a Psychology in Combat Instructor to Police and Military personnel.
I have never been on any of these forum sites before, but one of my fellow Law Enforcement Officers who assists me with Police Defensive Tactics classes has monitored this site for specific material before, he informed me about this ongoing debate involving some PH.D out of Princeton, who has ruffled a few feathers.
I have read the Doctors post, speaking from experience in Psy-Ops material the Doctor has performed a routine test study using what is known as “Divergent Angling”
in Psychology.
As he mentioned the title of the book is “Psychological Prompted Human Response”, the title should be a dead giveaway to everyone out there, the key word is “Prompted”.
And prompt…is exactly what he did, let me explain…first was the basic layout of a question asking about this particular Martial Arts Instructor, there were no hits, then came the supposed meeting with this teacher who essentially insulted Jujitsu in one form or another.
Now hear lies the cunning nature of this deed, the post was to appear as though he met this teacher and the lesson proved Jujitsu, Sport competition etc; were basically useless in the real world, so then anyone out there that read this who participates in, or is associated with Jujitsu or Sport, would be offended and instantly come back with some agitated reply, and then everyone replied with “F” this and “F” that and so on.
This played right into his plan, the whole event was “Prompted”, the entire point of his experiment, the insult to Jujitsu was done in an indirect manner, the best thing everyone should have done was not to respond at all, instead everyone got ticked off as usual and began throwing out insult after insult.
I have performed this type of test in the past, it is very elementary in nature, but it always works because most people are easily offended.
Gentleman if you see somthing like this again, just ignore it and move on, it is not trolling as you suggest or a backpedal, the responses the Doctor attained were exactly what he had wanted, all of your remarks will more than likely be displayed at some Princeton University Psychology Symposium for Psych. Students learning their trade.
Take care gentlemen.
Tsalagi
[quote=Tsalagi;2331299]I am a Law Enforcement Officer with over 13 years experience on the street, a U.S.Army Veteran (Officer in Psychological Warfare Division) who has been involved in Combat, and I am a Certified Defensive Tactics and Hand to Hand Combat Instructor and a Psychology in Combat Instructor to Police and Military personnel.
I have never been on any of these forum sites before, but one of my fellow Law Enforcement Officers who assists me with Police Defensive Tactics classes has monitored this site for specific material before, he informed me about this ongoing debate involving some PH.D out of Princeton, who has ruffled a few feathers.
I have read the Doctors post, speaking from experience in Psy-Ops material the Doctor has performed a routine test study using what is known as “Divergent Angling”
in Psychology.
As he mentioned the title of the book is “Psychological Prompted Human Response”, the title should be a dead giveaway to everyone out there, the key word is “Prompted”.
And prompt…is exactly what he did, let me explain…first was the basic layout of a question asking about this particular Martial Arts Instructor, there were no hits, then came the supposed meeting with this teacher who essentially insulted Jujitsu in one form or another.
Now hear lies the cunning nature of this deed, the post was to appear as though he met this teacher and the lesson proved Jujitsu, Sport competition etc; were basically useless in the real world, so then anyone out there that read this who participates in, or is associated with Jujitsu or Sport, would be offended and instantly come back with some agitated reply, and then everyone replied with “F” this and “F” that and so on.
This played right into his plan, the whole event was “Prompted”, the entire point of his experiment, the insult to Jujitsu was done in an indirect manner, the best thing everyone should have done was not to respond at all, instead everyone got ticked off as usual and began throwing out insult after insult.
I have performed this type of test in the past, it is very elementary in nature, but it always works because most people are easily offended.
Gentleman if you see somthing like this again, just ignore it and move on, it is not trolling as you suggest or a backpedal, the responses the Doctor attained were exactly what he had wanted, all of your remarks will more than likely be displayed at some Princeton University Psychology Symposium for Psych. Students learning their trade.
Take care gentlemen.
Tsalagi[/quote]
double LOL
Ignore it snake it is a test.
OMG.
No, sir. What we’re dealing with is a basement-dwelling twentysomething male with no accomplishments to speak of, who’s been boring people here to tears. I suggest you use your vast psyops experience to teach him how to troll.
[quote=It is Fake;2331305]Ignore it snake it is a test.
OMG.[/quote]
What’s next?
Letting us know that a Ugandan Prince has left us countless sums of money?
[quote=Tsalagi;2331299]
And prompt…is exactly what he did, let me explain…first was the basic layout of a question asking about this particular Martial Arts Instructor, there were no hits, then came the supposed meeting with this teacher who essentially insulted Jujitsu in one form or another.
Now hear lies the cunning nature of this deed, the post was to appear as though he met this teacher and the lesson proved Jujitsu, Sport competition etc; were basically useless in the real world, so then anyone out there that read this who participates in, or is associated with Jujitsu or Sport, would be offended and instantly come back with some agitated reply, and then everyone replied with “F” this and “F” that and so on.
Take care gentlemen.
Tsalagi[/quote]
All I saw was one post making some generalized statements that everyone saw as ignorant as soon as they were read. Then when the ignorant troll realized that no one was falling for his B.S., he came back making this other claim.
By the way, please prove your credentials, so that we can identify that you are not a troll also.
Originally Posted by Tsalagi
I am a Law Enforcement Officer with over 13 years experience on the street, a U.S.Army Veteran (Officer in Psychological Warfare Division) who has been involved in Combat, and I am a Certified Defensive Tactics and Hand to Hand Combat Instructor and a Psychology in Combat Instructor to Police and Military personnel.
I am a fellow law enforcement officer and defensive tactics instructor also. I also have a psychology degree. This forum respects all LEO and Military members and former members. However we treat harshly those who pretend to be what they are not. That is why tags are provided to people who prove their credentials. It is how we separate the true from the untrue. So please provide some proof, that way we can give you the respect that you deserve.
[quote=Tsalagi;2331299]I am a Law Enforcement Officer with over 13 years experience on the street, a U.S.Army Veteran (Officer in Psychological Warfare Division) who has been involved in Combat, and I am a Certified Defensive Tactics and Hand to Hand Combat Instructor and a Psychology in Combat Instructor to Police and Military personnel.
I have never been on any of these forum sites before, but one of my fellow Law Enforcement Officers who assists me with Police Defensive Tactics classes has monitored this site for specific material before, he informed me about this ongoing debate involving some PH.D out of Princeton, who has ruffled a few feathers.
I have read the Doctors post, speaking from experience in Psy-Ops material the Doctor has performed a routine test study using what is known as “Divergent Angling”
in Psychology.
As he mentioned the title of the book is “Psychological Prompted Human Response”, the title should be a dead giveaway to everyone out there, the key word is “Prompted”.
And prompt…is exactly what he did, let me explain…first was the basic layout of a question asking about this particular Martial Arts Instructor, there were no hits, then came the supposed meeting with this teacher who essentially insulted Jujitsu in one form or another.
Now hear lies the cunning nature of this deed, the post was to appear as though he met this teacher and the lesson proved Jujitsu, Sport competition etc; were basically useless in the real world, so then anyone out there that read this who participates in, or is associated with Jujitsu or Sport, would be offended and instantly come back with some agitated reply, and then everyone replied with “F” this and “F” that and so on.
This played right into his plan, the whole event was “Prompted”, the entire point of his experiment, the insult to Jujitsu was done in an indirect manner, the best thing everyone should have done was not to respond at all, instead everyone got ticked off as usual and began throwing out insult after insult.
I have performed this type of test in the past, it is very elementary in nature, but it always works because most people are easily offended.
Gentleman if you see somthing like this again, just ignore it and move on, it is not trolling as you suggest or a backpedal, the responses the Doctor attained were exactly what he had wanted, all of your remarks will more than likely be displayed at some Princeton University Psychology Symposium for Psych. Students learning their trade.
Take care gentlemen.
Tsalagi[/quote]
Dawg, are you fucking kidding?
Anyone want to make a bet that those two clowns are either the same person, or working closely together? Writing style is similar, screen names share a similar flavor… Someone is putting a lot of effort into a mediocre troll.
