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Take an honest look at this video:

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You mean to tell me that a Thai Roundhouse kick to the shins, back of the legs, or even the side of one’s torso would seriously put a stop to most, if not all of these fights?
especially considering the close range in the majority of these fights that would make these kicks slightly less as significant. The only thing that could work for a Thai fighter at this close a range is the Thai clinch, but you would have to dodge the constant combination of punches first, in order to secure this.

If anything a roundhouse kick would only distract the person defending themselves from dodging the actual punching blows being thrown at them, thus making the attacker’s chance at his punches actually connecting even higher.

Most street fights are characterized by a flurry of wild punchies in combination with a very fast albeit wild momentum that causes the two people to collide and quickly go to the ground after about 30 seconds.
Muay Thai fighting in the traditional sense is bout-by-bout sport characterized by relatively upright stationary positions, not much momentum that trade blows with each other in a bit more of a cleaner fashion:

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Not to mention both these fighters are TRAINED to keep their distances from each other that would put their opponent within optimum striking distance via their kicks, that obviously wouldnt work with an opponent UNTRAINED trying furiously to close the gap with a wild haymaker.

It seems boxing (especially it’s defensive head movement) after all, combined with a great wrestling shoot, and BJJ work on the ground is the ultimate best form of self-defense for almost any street situation-- except for one with weapons:

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Are you just dumb? or is this the rare, super dumb that I’ve heard whispered in the annals of fuckheadom.

meh, its worked for me. you realise there is more to thai boxing than roundhouse kicks right? failtroll is fail.

Yawn. Someone wake me up when summer’s over.

You start out saying “Muay Thai” and then start talking about roundhouse kicks to the legs.

First of all, those kicks can and do regularly break bones on the receiving end. Having your ankle shattered is a fight ender. So even your retarded-ass straw man fails.

That said, having someone grab you and then knee you in the face until you drop is also a fight ender.

Muay Thai is more than just attacking. It is also controlling range, throwing feints and setting up your attacks, among other things. It only takes one good shot to knock someone out. Being able to set up that shot is something that one learns in Muay Thai.

I’m just going to stop there because your argument is so stupid it burns. Maybe for an encore you’ll post a video of someone with a gun getting run over by a car and then proceed to tell us how guns are worthless for self-defense.

Prepare the genital cuff!

[QUOTE=Mo_Fo;2563413]:SoMuchWin: Click Me! [/QUOTE]

Excellent video!

It’s the first I’ve ever seen of a Thai roundhouse kick working in real life.

you’ve got to admit though.

A good boxing defense, with a strong jab on the chin would have ended it much faster and with a knockout–rather than people stopping it

[QUOTE=No.1_Son;2563426]You start out saying “Muay Thai” and then start talking about roundhouse kicks to the legs.

First of all, those kicks can and do regularly break bones on the receiving end. Having your ankle shattered is a fight ender. So even your retarded-ass straw man fails.

That said, having someone grab you and then knee you in the face until you drop is also a fight ender.

Muay Thai is more than just attacking. It is also controlling range, throwing feints and setting up your attacks, among other things. It only takes one good shot to knock someone out. Being able to set up that shot is something that one learns in Muay Thai.

I’m just going to stop there because your argument is so stupid it burns. Maybe for an encore you’ll post a video of someone with a gun getting run over by a car and then proceed to tell us how guns are worthless for self-defense.[/QUOTE]

I’ve already addressed your counterpoints in my original post. No such thing as “controlled range” in a street fight, as your untrained opponents objective is to close the gap.

Muay thai is more-or-less defined by it’s clinch, it’s use of elbows, but most importantly-- it’s leg kicks-- they merely adopted the Western style boxing punches.

Which again–if you USED that latter point-- all goes back to supporting my argument of western boxing.

also-- I’ve never heard of an MT kick ON AVERAGE (<------ Key words here) breaking bones.

(“On average” means no random youtube videos of it happening)

Abra Ka trollshido bra.

[QUOTE=Alex;2563416]meh, its worked for me. you realise there is more to thai boxing than roundhouse kicks right? failtroll is fail.[/QUOTE]

I meant to reply to this one earlier, but the explanation I gave to No1 Son, about wht defines MT vs. boxing should do.

Go back to newbietown and stay there and somebody lock the fucking door.

On average, your posts are as enlightening as belly button lint.

What’s up, guys?

no room for unconventional opinions?

[QUOTE=humbleservant_7;2563442]What’s up, guys?

no room for unconventional opinions?[/QUOTE]The word your looking for is not ‘unconventional’ its ‘ignorant’.

[QUOTE=humbleservant_7;2563401]You mean to tell me that a Thai Roundhouse kick to the shins, back of the legs, or even the side of one’s torso would seriously put a stop to most, if not all of these fights?[/QUOTE]
Shin, back of leg, and torso? You don’t know a whole lot about muay thai, do you?

You know, a technique that doesn’t put a stop to the fight instantly doesn’t make it a bad technique.

I’ve seen MT roundhouse kicks drop plenty of people.

especially considering the close range in the majority of these fights that would make these kicks slightly less as significant.
Untrained tards don’t know how to work range. Trained fighters do.

The only thing that could work for a Thai fighter at this close a range is the Thai clinch, but you would have to dodge the constant combination of punches first, in order to secure this.
You can attain a clinch by dodging one or zero punches.

If anything a roundhouse kick would only distract the person defending themselves from dodging the actual punching blows being thrown at them, thus making the attacker’s chance at his punches actually connecting even higher.
You’ve never been knocked out by a head kick, have you? Ever been knocked on your ass by a body or leg kick? I doubt it.

Most street fights are characterized by a flurry of wild punchies in combination with a very fast albeit wild momentum that causes the two people to collide and quickly go to the ground after about 30 seconds.
To be fair, most streetfights are between idiots.

Muay Thai fighting in the traditional sense is bout-by-bout sport characterized by relatively upright stationary positions, not much momentum that trade blows with each other in a bit more of a cleaner fashion:

That’s because a muay thai fighter can’t just charge in like a tard, because he’ll get KTFO’d by someone who knows the art.

Not to mention both these fighters are TRAINED to keep their distances from each other that would put their opponent within optimum striking distance via their kicks, that obviously wouldnt work with an opponent UNTRAINED trying furiously to close the gap with a wild haymaker.
A wild haymaker doesn’t really close the gap. But if they do, now they’re fighting a MT fighter at clinch range. Many martial artists have fallen to the MT fighter at this range, due to sweeps, elbow, knees and manhandling. Oh, but MT is only roundkicks…

It seems boxing (especially it’s defensive head movement) after all, combined with a great wrestling shoot, and BJJ work on the ground is the ultimate best form of self-defense for almost any street situation-- except for one with weapons:
Without weapons, I think the best form of self defense is numbers.

im only responding to this cause i aint got shit else to do for the moment and cause i think i just typed something really relating to this in another topic not 10 secs ago.

the most important applicaiton of mt or boxing in a street fight is protecting yourself. if that means laying the other dude out, then thats your goal, if that means bieng able to defend yourself with blocks, slips and ducks so you end up with bruises instead of breaks then you know what- thats the goal of it.

if you can whail on someone in the ring (muai thai) and prevent a TRAINED opponent from whailing on you- you can CERTAINLY prevent major injuries (or at least minimize them depending on the circumstances) on the “street”. street vs sport is a fallacy, the only difference (unless you are a loan shark looking to land a hurtin on someone for good ol’ uncle vinny to collect) is your intended goal. in the latter you want to whup some ass, in the former, you want to protect yourself and walk out with all your teeth/genitalia intact- and if part of that is putting down the other dude, then great if not, you are able to walk/screw and drink again the next day so you still win. i really don’t see why people are so fucking confused by this shit all the time.

EDIT:
well- yeah, without weapons…

[QUOTE=humbleservant_7;2563442]What’s up, guys?

no room for unconventional opinions?[/QUOTE]
What do you mean? You want more than your own thread? That seems awfully selfish of you. We just met you.

No room for stupid ones.

A Muay Thai fighter would 1) have better footwork, 2) have better striking defense and 3) have better hands than most if not all “street fighters”. Even if the bum rush works the MT guy is used to taking shots and is more likely to react well to them. That’s when he clinches and shows the bum who his daddy is.

[QUOTE=Permalost;2563446]Sin, back of leg, and torso? You don’t know a whole lot about muay thai, do you? [/QUOTE]

Are these NOT where the majority of MT kicks are placed?

One of the advantages MT has over other kicking sports like TKD is it’s practicality of where to PLACE it’s kicks-- via the LOWER body, making it easier to hit and actually damage your opponent.

[QUOTE=Permalost;2563446]Untrained tards don’t know how to work range. Trained fighters do.[/QUOTE]

Exactly my point. range cannot be kept from someone who’s objective is to CLOSE it. this nullifies the leg range of MT, making only it’s punches (again a nod back to Western boxing) the only thing effective at that range. That and the clinch.

You can attain a clinch by dodging one or zero punches.
I’ve never seen this before. Please substantiate as this sounds wildly impractical that someone would let you get into THAT close of a range without ANY punch thrown. Notice-- I am talking about your average realistic situation. Most people swing within a couple of feet.

You’ve never been knocked out by a head kick, have you? Ever been knocked on your ass by a body or leg kick? I doubt it.
Most head kicks do not connect-- hence the reason why you only SEE their exhibitions MOSTLY in TKD. While the more realistic fighting sports use kicks aimed at the lower body.

To be fair, most streetfights are between idiots.
agreed.