BJJ Kata 1

Basic and Misc. Fighting Technique Discussion
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[QUOTE=Dr. Gonzo;3019010]I don’t think that I am the one being weaboo here.

You have your panties in a wad over the word kata.

I don’t think most of the posters here do.

I suspect most of the folks posting see the work kata to mean, pre-arranged sequence practice.

Which all the best combat sport coaches and competitors employ in their training.[/QUOTE]

Negative. That’s the argument you wish I was making, not the argument I’m actually making.

I have repeatedly clarified that I appreciate the value of drilling. And I have no problem with referring to it as kata, as long as you understand that makes you a dork.

I have one consistent point here. Kata is not a legitimate tool for passing along information to future generations. And it is not.

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[QUOTE=Omega Supreme;3019012]I’m glad wrestling doesn’t have anything like katas

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What??? There are drills in wrestling??? I had no idea!!! It’s a good thing we have memorialized those drills with kata so they won’t be forgotten by future generations, aside from those who wander into our caves and see them painted in blood on the walls.

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[QUOTE=Devil;3019014]What??? There are drills in wrestling??? I had no idea!!! It’s a good thing we have memorialized those drills with kata so they won’t be forgotten by future generations, aside from those who wander into our caves and see them painted in blood on the walls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Omega Supreme;3018895]Kata is a way to communicate concepts from creator to future practitioners.[/QUOTE]

Are you seriously this lazy?

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[QUOTE=Devil;3019013]Negative. That’s the argument you wish I was making, not the argument I’m actually making.

I have repeatedly clarified that I appreciate the value of drilling. And I have no problem with referring to it as kata, as long as you understand that makes you a dork.

I have one consistent point here. Kata is not a legitimate tool for passing along information to future generations. And it is not.[/QUOTE]
I’m all for poking fun of people who put the Japanese, or Japanese mythology, or Japanese words on a ridiculous pedestal.

However, if someone picked up that nomenclature, I don’t care one way or the other.

And, I am not going to start calling the sequence that I have to teach people getting their black belts in Judo, the Nage-No-Drill just because you don’t like it.

Or call the set of Kodokan curriculums “drills” instead of “kata” when teaching Judo just because it’s a burr in your butt.

That is your problem.

I am not a very formal teacher, quite the opposite, in fact.

But I do make sure that my students know what to do or say if they are in more formal Judo situations, or other people’s BJJ or Gracie Jiu-Jitsu rooms,

Otherwise, it would put them at a needless disadvantage in those environments by making them seem like ignoramuses.

And, Japanese is the Lingua Franca for Judo, the 2nd most widely practiced sport in the world.

So, no matter where my Judo (or Jiu-Jitsu) students go in the world, if they know a modicum of Judo Japanese,

and are comfortable using it, or hearing it, they can slide into a Judo practice, pretty comfortably,

even if they do not speak the local language.

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The way I see it is this:

Tzadok posted a video called “how I get down.” And, we’re all arguing the meaning of the word “is.”

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[QUOTE=Devil;3019018]ignoring the serious point that I’ve made and repeated for clarity.[/QUOTE]
Your point, as I understand, is that we have better means of knowledge transfer, and we should avail ourselves of that. I have no qualms, there. That’s between you and Omega, my fight ended with “lol kata.”

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[QUOTE=submessenger;3019029]The way I see it is this:

Tzadok posted a video called “how I get down.” And, we’re all arguing the meaning of the word “is.”

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Your point, as I understand, is that we have better means of knowledge transfer, and we should avail ourselves of that. I have no qualms, there. That’s between you and Omega, my fight ended with “lol kata.”[/QUOTE]Wait a minute, I have no qualms about him thinking that there are better means of knowledge transfer. Not what I was arguing about.

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[QUOTE=Omega Supreme;3019039]Wait a minute, I have no qualms about him thinking that there are better means of knowledge transfer. Not what I was arguing about.[/QUOTE]

I think your point (well somebody’s point) was that kata is still a valid means of knowledge transfer, and he was waffling between it’s never been effective, and there are better options. Does that help?

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[QUOTE=submessenger;3019044]I think your point (well somebody’s point) was that kata is still a valid means of knowledge transfer, and he was waffling between it’s never been effective, and there are better options. Does that help?[/QUOTE]Yup, completely.

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Clarifications:

DCS: Yup, some of it is sloppy. When I filmed it, I had just finished a 2 hour competition class. I’m still at a point where technical crispness and weight distribution degrade as exhaustion sets in. Though I would happily hear any constructive criticism about any or all parts as to how they can be performed better.

Devil(et. al): There are a couple of Japanese-Palestinian students, they are the ones that started calling it kata. It was kind of an inside joke as BJJ is often considered a martial art without kata.

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[QUOTE=Michael Tzadok;3019063]Clarifications:

DCS: Yup, some of it is sloppy. When I filmed it, I had just finished a 2 hour competition class. I’m still at a point where technical crispness and weight distribution degrade as exhaustion sets in. Though I would happily hear any constructive criticism about any or all parts as to how they can be performed better.[/QUOTE]

First one: your KOB to Mount transition. You are not opening the far elbow and your leg movement is asking for getting stuck in half guard.

Watch this

//youtu.be/ecIw6JyspWA

//youtu.be/5zy9JzidffY

Maybe it’s because fatigue but what I see in your clip is someone who lacks fundamentals. Doing reps with technical mistakes ingrains technical mistakes.

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Cleanup on aisle 2: https://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=128582

I’m going to wait on the serious is/isn’t kata parts a while, perhaps forever.