I personally like high kicks. I just never use them as a first strike, I always use them as follow ups to something else… using it as a first attack is asking for punishment.
Hands down + high kick = t3h d34dly…
I like to start with a jump spin kick…something that will really intimidate my opponent and make him admire my athleticism before he slams me to the mat.
high kicks(?)
well,it is depend on situations. if your opponent is 2m tall(like 6’6’‘) and your height is,maybe 5’11’(like me) it is better to use high kicks especially from ground like side kick or back-thrust kick.by the way, it is depend on the situations
Since after reading 6 pages and still no straight answer for you, I’ll be kind.
High kicks work in th3 str33ts if:
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You have the power, distancing and timing skills of Mirko Cro Cop. Just because he can pull it off doesn’t mean you can too.
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You understand when you can throw them so that you can pull it off.
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The pants you’re wearing allows you to do said kick.
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Your shoes and the ground you’re standing on allows you to pivot to do said kick.
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You can regularly do high kicks and connect them during sparring in class, and can do them with enough power to KO your opponent in tournaments.
Unless I could do all the above, I wouldn’t even try it.
Look at Cro Cop’s fight videos. He typically throws them well into the fight, when the opponent is tired. He always does it when it’s least expected.
On the other hand, I saw my coach KO his opponent at 15 sec in the first round with a high kick, after he noticed that his opponent had a habit of dropping his hands after receiving a low kick. Bam…he went to sleep.
To be honest in anything other than a competition fight you are likely to do more damage to yourself through a muscle strain than to your opponent because you wont be warmed up. Literally stopping such a kick in a fight where grappling is allowed is just to walk strait forward. It is very easy to knock someone down. Personally I agree with the idea that if the kick is above the waist you don’t use it. Admittedly it doesn’t top Cro Cop but then he only tends to use them when his opponent is done anyway.
High Kicks are one of the greatest techniques to end a fight with, just look at Mirko Filipovic, not to mention they look bad ass as well.
Not true. Go read Thomas Kurtz’s book. You don’t need to warm up to do high kicks if you have good dynamic flexibility. Doing splits is not dynamic flexibility.
And do you expect the kicker to be stupid enough to tell you before hand that he’s going to do a high kick so that you can just walk straight forwards? Do you realize how fast a good kicker can throw that high kick, even if he’s not going to set it up?
C’mon guys, how long have you trained? Nobody throws high kicks off the bat. Let me give you a clue. Most people setup their high kicks, and then only when they notice that you have particular bad habits of dropping your hands after you take hits to certain places, or while doing techniques like low kicks.
One example is by throwing a low kick, then a very quick second kick that aims for the head. Most untrained people are going to grab their hurt leg, which leaves their face wide open. Trained fighters also tend to drop their hands after they check the low kick.
Another is kicker goes in and throws a punch combo, prefably ending with a shovel hook or cross to body, opponent gets hit and lowers his hands moving backwards, kicker steps in and throws the head kick.
Then there’s the brazilian kick, which looks like a middle level kick but aims for the neck.
Some crazy people can throw head level kicks at punching range, they just have that kind of flexibility, and their kicks pack power, I know because I took one, and the guy is shorter than me.
If you are quite fast there is no problem with using high kicks but personally I wouldn’t purely because its risky compared to just low kicks and hand strikes.
Thread winner for sure!
Okay, try this.
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stretch out to avoid muscle strain.
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do a front kick, straight up with full power.
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when your shin makes contact with your nose, ask yourself the following question: did that hurt?
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in your journal, record the answer to said queston.
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log on to bullshido.com and post your results.
if during this exercise, some really good grappler shows up and takes you down, or your answer is “no” to the question, don’t use high kicks. If the answer is “yes”, and you don’t get taken down, feel free to kick people in the head at your leisure.
Take cover…
and yes, that exercise makes about as much, if not more sense than the ridiculous flame war going on in this thread. EVERYONE on both sides of the argument is making the SAME fucking point: high kicks are good for some fighters in some situations, and bad for other fighters in other situations. same as every other martial arts move in existence. Even a flying spinning backfist could be put to use in the right situation.
n00b B’ Que ?
Anyone?
Rashad Evans vs Salmon has just finished…I thought that might be worth mentioning at this moment in time
Fuck Aye, wow! What a KO! Looked like ol’ Andy Hug with that high round house. Hope Salmon isn’t too fucked up.
high kicks is really useful in fight.take axe kick for example.this kick can break skull in half(not exactly,but you get the point)
I’m going to post in response here, in the hopes that it will reduce the beating you are about to receive from others.
The axe kick, used against a standing opponent with even a basic understanding of wrestling and takedowns, will result in a quick trip to the ground for the kicker. If he’s lucky, his pelvis will remain intact.
I know this because George(s?) St. Pierre throws an excellent axe kick, but to my knowledge has never used it against a standing opponent. He has primarily used it against opponents who are on the ground already, since it generates a huge amount of downward force. If anyone could use the axe kick effectively from a standing position, it would be him, and I’ve got to believe he would love to be able to pull it off: but it just doesn’t work.
Further evidence comes from the almost total absence of the axe kick from top-level competitive TKD and full-contact karate. It’s not as rare as it is in MMA, but it’s still pretty damned rare. I’m sure there are a few cool KO vids of the axe kick being used, but that doesn’t change that it’s an absurdly low-percentage play even before you introduce grappling into the equation.
High kicks are useful. I think Crocop’s success, and ironically his latest loss, demonstrate that. But when we say “high kicks” we mean almost exclusively “high turning kicks / roundhouses.” That’s because empirically those kicks are what work.
I was outside of Taco Bell at 3:00 in the morning in Chico, CA. where I studied about 15 years ago. They had a walk-up window that stayed open really late. It was a great place to watch fights on weekends. An acquaintance of mine (and a right prick at that) started a fight with a scrawny Asian guy. The guy didn’t want to fight. But this guy persisted. Next thing I know, the Asian guy gives him a freaking roundhouse to the nose. Said acquaintance is down for the count with a broken nose LOL. In all my times in bars, or on the street, that is the single and only time I have seen it work. I wouldn’t recommend it in a fight though.
Actually if you practice high kicks, they will be good, but remember: no matter how hard you can kick up high you kick will always be strongest hip-level.
I myself train kicks as high as high as I can because I’ve always wanted that one kick KO, but thats just how I train.
that really all I have to offer.