1point2 @ West Point Judo NOOBERY

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Your loss in the first clip was a coin flip. It really depends on how you saw it. Typically, unless the counter is perfectly decisive, the close ones will always go to the aggressor.

I have to laugh. I still remember Phillip Wilson from Starret judo. He and I went back and forth on wins and losses against each other for a LONG time. I wonder if he’s still around…

I have one critique for you: Commitment. Be more explosive and decisive. There isn’t anything really wrong with your technique, but you are always surrendering initiative in these clips. Even when you are attacking, you aren’t forcing him to react to you.

On the ground you seem very comfortable. Try to be that confident when you are upright.

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I was thinking today about how I don’t particularly like judo competition.

I mean, really–I got injured in one of my recent matches and that’s keeping me from randori, and even when don’t get injured (only ippon’d), man, that HURTS. Duh–judo works. Judo competition gives me butterflies and flop sweat and it’s just plain hard.

But I do it, and love it, because the feedback from my coach–who has amazing insight to my game–as well as Bullshido (thanks guys) and my sempai is so unbelievable. It’s supportive and that’s nice, but it’s also so damn productive. It directs my training in class (commitment to a throw, confidence standing, what throws to work on…) and out of class (road work) and it helps me stay on a good diet.

My first tournament washed away years of misconceptions. My second tournament made me an ardent follower of the Church of Cardio. My third tournament told me that I had been working on the wrong secondary tokui-waza. It’s phenomenal, how much competition has improved my judo.

Anyway…

Thanks for the feedback Scrapper. You make excellent points about both initiative and commitment. I’ve found that for me, making the decision to take the initiative (which is hard, but getting easier) improves my commitment to a throw.

madcap–I’ll be on the lookout at the next comp.

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You was way to tense. You need to stand up and be more relax, You are telegraphing every move you make

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I agree, thanks for the advice Mark. Telegraphing is closely related to my other major issue; not committing. I did a better job standing up at my 3rd tournament–video still on the way.

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The long-awaited video:

YouTube - 1st match, 3rd tournament

It was actually kouchigari to an ankle pick.

I don’t have video for the other two matches, because it took maybe three separate freeware programs to get me to this point, with at least a dozen other attempted programs, aaaaand one of them has a 30 second limit. My other matches are longer than that and I don’t feel like going through the effort to produce 7 youtube links for 2 more matches at the moment.

I crave your feedback, O knowledgable ones.

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You are correct, you threw him for ippon, the center referee was correct.

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Very good matches

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East Coast Championships 2009

East coast judo championships 2009 in Newark, NJ. White belt (yonkyu & below), 178 lbs, I weighed 171. 27 competitors in my division; I went 4-2 to get (by my possibly-wrong calculations) between 5th and 8th place (tied for 5th, I guess you could say).

My first match didn’t get taped due to lack of camera. I won by tani-otoshi counter. My coach said it wasn’t worth the full ippon I got for it; I was happy with my posture, composure, and defense…but not my attacks. IDENTIFYING INFORMATION: I am, in all of them, the lanky bearded green belt who fails to make any definitive attacks.

My second match was shite. Lost by two yukos to the guy who took 1st. The “why no ippon?” at 0:55 is my attempt at another tani-otoshi, which they recognized as not his throw.
YouTube - East Coast 2009 Dave loss by double yuko
Fundamentally, I couldn’t break his defense. I need explosiveness. I also noticed that he gassed before I did (him circa 1:45, see his weak uchimata, and me and my total lack of anything ~2:45), but I couldn’t capitalize. I really had no attack in this match.

My third match I won by osaekomi after he fails a throw. “After they fail a throw” is the name of the game for me at this tournament.
YouTube - East Coast 2009 Dave by osaekomi
Notice the lack of definitive attacks on my part. My self-analysis is that I was going for an osotogari, based on the high collar grip I took. I then went for the ogoshi, which he refused to follow into.

Fourth match went exactly, and I mean play-by-play, barely-a-detail-difference, exactly as we had drilled in class. I capitalized on his failed throw, he turtles–BAM, go go gameplan. Hooks, stretch & surf, attack the neck from both sides, hadakajime. I mounted his turtle at 0:10 and he tapped at 0:23. This was my favorite, technique-wise.
YouTube - East Coast 2009 Dave by hadakajime

Fifth match was my favorite in terms of improvement since I started competing. He had some moves, and I didn’t beat him by any amazing attack, but it was pure randori-hours that won me the match.
It starts with some spirited gripping, which was about even. At 0:40 he tries for uchimata, I block and take him down for waza-ari. Stupidly, I hesitate before passing the guard, and so lose my chance for the pin. At 1:05 I go for my ogoshi grip and almost get thrown–advice? One of my sempai (the guy holding the camera, actually) says I shouldn’t go for that grip at all, but just dive into the full grip. I have trouble entering when I do that. Anyway, I’m unable to make my kouchi or anything else happen, so he goes for another uchimata and I block and knock him down for waza-ari #2.
YouTube - East Coast 2009 Dave by uchimata sukashi
I know that the “uchimata sukashi” is a mislabelling. It’s more like the “anti-uchimata.”

Sixth match, second loss. One of the most exciting matches. Notice my total, abject lack of any defense at 0:15! My deft reguarding at 0:20! My noobtacular osotogari at 0:41! My stunning failure to follow-up with newaza at 0:44! My spidering out of a tomoe-nage at 0:55! Witness me disrobe my opponent at 1:07! Watch my gut-wrenching defeat at 1:25 by my old nemesis, left-side tai-otoshi!
YouTube - East Coast 2009 Dave loss by seoinage x2

Criticism, advice, drills, to-do lists all welcome. See my training log (supporting membership, woot woot) for more thoughts.

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Is it just me, or are we judo bullies consistently much better at ne-waza than tachi-waza? I feel like I’m sensing a trend building.

What I see:
Cut down on the self-deprecation. You did your best, too much self-deprecation leads to self-doubt and self-fulfilling prophecies of failure.
Basically, just building to confidence to go for throws is the biggest thing. Once we can drop that fear of pulling the trigger, throwing people becomes tremendously easier.
As for the Ogoshi grip, I think you had too much space when you took the grip, which gave him the opportunity to shoot for the Uchimata. I think your sempai is saying to just go into it in order to prevent that space for countering. Break the distance and bring him in, then grip and kuzushi.
Winning by counters and wazari is totally acceptable to me, and even falls more in line with the philosophy of judo. They try to throw, you stop them and turn it against them. What’s more perfect than that?

props for getting out there and for putting up the vids. i’m too ashamed of my last tournament to bother getting it out, hopefully next week’s tournament goes better.

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Thanks for the feedback. I liked the counters too, but I feel that to compete effectively in the brown belt division, I need to go beyond relying on my opponent making a gross mistake. I don’t mind the counters, I just want them to be supplemented by big attacks too.

Don’t worry about looking bad. See my other matches and feel better. I got some great feedback from the bullies.

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I think Bullies are better at newaza because we’re more likely to cross-train BJJ/SAMBO/wrestling with our judo/MT/karate/sanda. I got a leg up at the start from karate, and rode that wave until I started BJJ.

Unfortunately I don’t want my newaza to be better than my clinch; it just is. I want to throw them as much as pin and choke them.

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Fall Promotional 2009

Went 1-2 in my first tournament at the brown belt level. I went to the Hudson Yudanshakai’s Fall Promotional Shiai/Tournament 2009 and had a great time. I earned 2 points towards my nikyu and got a taste of what brown belts feel like in competition.

I started the day hella nervous. Once I got on the mat, it all washed away.

I first went up against a green belt, which isn’t supposed to happen, but whatever. He scored waza-ari on me after I failed osotogari, and I opportunistically took the armbar he gave me. Win! Camera was undergoing technical issues FYI.
YouTube - 1st match @ Fall Promotional 2009
I was happy about my first use of a hip block, and not so happy about my lack of solid nagewaza attacks. My footwork/movement was also not what I want it to be.

I stayed on the mat for my next match, in what is a both neat and taxing tradition. Opponent was a lefty. I moved better than in the 1st match, I guess, but when I took an underarm grip and moved for ouchigari, he countered with deashibarai (?) for ippon.
YouTube - 2nd match @ Fall Promotional 2009

In my third match, I go against my first opponent again. He was hunting hard for the seoinage, and his elbow (which I had jazzed significantly but not seriously) seemed to have gotten better. He was fast and attacked continuously. After he fails a throw, I tried for the Yamashita turnover (see training log, Supporting members) and couldn’t get it, so moved for the choke or armbar. His arms and neck were locked up tighter than the nuclear launch codes.
I get another hip block, but again can’t crack his turtle.
I fake a high grip to bait his seoinage urges, and take the low grip. Ha! From there I try the kouchigari, hip block his seoinage, and fail to crack his newaza stalling.
Finally I start moving him like I should. I go for the kouchigari, he counters, I stupidly roll to my back to give him the ippon. Sadface.
YouTube - 3rd match @ Fall Promotional 2009

Overall I’m OK with how the day went, but want to develop A) more cardio (though this wasn’t an issue) B) more aggressive attacks C) better turtle cracking. My instructors are suggesting 1) ashiwaza and 2) forward throws, along with 3) more of the hip blocks, and less of the falling on my back.

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Turns out my first opponent is probably a sankyu, but just from a club where they use green for sankyu.

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He was throwing another armbar at you in the last match around 1:20, should have taken him up on it.
And you have been going pretty fast to brown, how long has it been?

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[quote=M.C.;2238599]He was throwing another armbar at you in the last match around 1:20, should have taken him up on it.
And you have been going pretty fast to brown, how long has it been?[/quote]

Yeah, I see that. It was a messy [STRIKE]takedown[/STRIKE] fall to the ground, and I didn’t feel it. Maybe his elbow was clamped to his ribs; I know I was looking for the lapel choke (jigokujime) or armbar just as you describe; not sure why it wasn’t there like the other times.

It’s been 10 months. I came in with some newaza skills (ZOMG CRAPPLING) but I think it’s primarily that I’ve gone to class regularly every week, competed, and used competition to improve, that has gotten me promoted at that rate. There are standards and time-in-grade requirements, yet promotions are primarily ability-based. It’s not fast compared to other competitors AFAIK.

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Well, keep it up I guess. And don’t go for the lapel choke, the refs seem to not let you play it out long enough. Ram your hooks in and RNC or grab their isolated flailing arms when ever you hit the ground and armbar the living shit out of them. Doing Judo does not mean the fight stops as soon as one or both people hit the ground, fight ends when the ref calls it or you ripped his arm out.

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This was my first time against the guy. Except for possibly at 1:20 he seemed aware of it the second time.

This did me well in the previous tournament. I actually know exactly the detail I forgot, that cost me the (possible) success of this technique: incorrect finger positioning for attacking the neck. Srsly. I had it right two weeks prior; I just forgot at the promotional.

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Won two 1st places at NY Submission Series. No video, sorry folks.

Went 0-2 at Tech Judo Invitational in brown belt 178#. Second video is chopped up and blurry. Advice welcome. Yes, I know that my hip blocks in the 1st match suck balls.

Match 1
YouTube - Tech Judo Invitational - Dave’s 1st match (loss)

Match 2 - I almost got him with several chokes and armlocks, but got stood up every time. I felt I was winning in tachiwaza until I walked into a beautiful kataguruma. I’d love a rematch :slight_smile:

YouTube - Tech Judo Invitational - Dave’s 2nd match PART 1
YouTube - Tech Judo Invitational - Dave’s 2nd match PART 2
YouTube - Tech Judo Invitational - Dave’s 2nd match PART 3

Sorry about the blurry camera work. Something was on the lens.

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A) Bump.

B) Supporting members - please check out my training log for a little more analysis.

C) Bullies who aren’t supporting members yet - sign up & get on the awesome train! Training logs rock. There are secret forums. There are crazy orgies. It’s wicked.*

* There are no actual orgies. But supporting membership is still awesome.

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brown? you’re an ikkyu already? wtf that was fast.